Hi Brad,

You are right - there are many, many references to a mandora as mandore and
vice versa. It has been and continues to be an area of much confusion. I
personally started differentiating them (small mandore, large mandora) after
reading Donald Gill's plea to do so in the Lute Society Journal (or Lute
News - can't recall the year or issue). To make matters worse, the large
German mandora is also known as a gallichon, itself having various
spellings. And to cap it all, on my Flowers of the Forest CD I refered to my
small mandore as a mandour (for a dour man).

I wouldn't take a museum attribution as gospel...they can often be wrong. I
suggest following the gospel according to Gill.

Rob



On 27/03/2008, Brad McEwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rob:
>
> Tht's news to me.  I have always read that the instruments referred to as
> mandoras, (including the instrument that you call the mandore) are what you
> call the "small treble'like lute" .  The Royal Ontario Museum has the small
> treble lute listed as a mandora.  So does the Broadside Band, Ron McFarlane,
> and  otherrecordings.  I don't know how many books I have seen over the
> years that call mandores mandoras.  Usually it is stated that mandora is the
> Italian name and mandore is the French.
>
> Every book I have every read on the subject has stated that the terms
> mandore, mandora and mandola were interchangeable for the same instrument
> that you have recorded with.
>
> What was the period for this German Mandora?  The period of usage of the
> term mandora in the context that I know was the Renaissance.
>
> Has some newe reseaarch brought something to light that will cause all
> previous books on the subject to now be incorrect and outdated?  All museums
> will have to recatalogue and rename the mandoras in their collections?
>
> Although I do not, as previously stated, have academic credentials, I
> feell that I'm reasonably well informed on this subject and I ahve never
> heard of this lower pitched German mandora.
>
> Brad
>
>
> *Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> Sorry, Brad, but you are not quite correct. I recorded music for the
> mandore, not the mandora. The former is the small treble-like lute, four or
> five courses, while the latter is a large German lute of various pitches and
> numbers of strings. The mandora in E was the same tuning as the modern
> guitar, but more often appeared down a tone in D, and often again in eight
> courses.
>
> Rob
>
>
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