Martyn Hodgson wrote:

>      The 18thC Mandora (aka Gallichon - various cognates) was also tuned
> in E as well as D.

This of course means that the modern guitar tuning was already common - or at least fairly well known - as a lute tuning before it was used for the guitar.

Among other things that gives a whole new perspective to the late 19th/early 20th C. German "Wandervogel-laute." Usually it's been shrugged off as just a silly attempt to give the guitar some fake pedigree by making it look like a lute. Now it turns out a virtually identical instrument existed even as early as the 17th century.
Is there any evidence of such an instrument from he early 19th century?

> The large continuo gallichon was tuned in A (ie with first course as the
> top line of the bass clef) so 886 cm is by no means too large.

Sorry I misunderstood Barber there. I thought he meant an octave higher.

> Despite Barber's statement that the Schorn is the only extant large
> galichon in A, there are, in fact,  a number of others

Is there any evidence that Tielke made such instruments?

>   The Mandora/Gallichon should, however, not be confused with the 18thC
> Italian lute

Could you tell us a bit more about the difference? The description you give seems to fit the galichon fairly well.

> My view is that these are, indeed, simply continuations of the old lute
> (in nominal G or A depending on local pitch) and played accompanied from
> staff notation (like the late archlute of Dalla Casa) but without the
> complication (for amatuers) of the extra open basses.

I would assume that professionals would also occasionally prefer this more portable alternative to the arhclute and theorbe.

> I'm currently developing a paper on this.

Please let us know when and where you publish!


Frank Nordberg
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