"Susan A. Schlenger" wrote:

> Hello, Brigette,
>         A great number of puppies have innocent murmurs at under eight weeks of
> age.  I went through a period of worry over two of mine until speaking
> to a cardiologist.  Are you worried about a PDA (Patent Ductus) sort of
> murmur?  They can take up to eight weeks to normally close.  After that,
> there is a very successful surgery which can be done to correct a PDA
> murmur. Other "innocent" murmurs can take up to a few months to
> disappear.  I'm not saying that the murmur you have is innocent, but
> don't panic just yet.
>
> Many vets (including my own) are very good at hearing murmurs, but won't
> classify them without a specialist.  Sometimes this expertise is scarey;
> most vets wouldn't hear the murmurs that my vet hears.  Therefore, I do
> agree that going to a cardiologist is the best bet for a good
> diagnosis.
>
> I wouldn't breed a dog with a PDA murmur which didn't close by eight
> weeks or so as the mode of inheritence hasn't been studied long enough;
> the only study of which I know is in poodles and it wasn't sufficient.
> (This is just my opinion, folks!) However, it isn't necessarily life
> threatening unless it goes untreated.  You would hear a PDA murmur in a
> different area of the heart than MVD.
>
> I've learned a great deal by volunteering to assist at a heart clinic;
> during the times when we weren't swamped with exams, the cardiologist
> was most kind in educating me about a number of areas.  I also sneak in
> a question or two that has come up in the past during routine cardiology
> exams on my dogs.  Most top cardiologists are more than willing to share
> their research.
>
> Suze (off to Boston cluster this am)
>

Sorry not to trim this post but I want to save it in its entirety for future
reference.
Thank you Suze for your words of hope but supposedly this is not one of those
innocent murmors.  I have had those on occasion and my vet diagnosed them as such.
I am told that this is probably a murmor caused by a hole between the left and
right ventricle.  We do not have a board certified cardiologist in this province
and I am told the puppy is too young to do a lot of testing on.  Unfortunately he
is not gaining weight as well as he used to but I am hoping that will change as he
loves the solid food and eats twice as much at each sitting as his litter mates.
Hope you had a wonderful time at the 'Boston Cluster'.

Brigitte Falch
Kibergo Cavaliers Reg'd
Maple Ridge, BC, Canada
http://alescosys.com/kibergo

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