I am sorry Myra but you don't KNOW that for a certainty, Clear to Clear will produce MVD also - all lines have the defective gene therefore some will have early onset some will have late. All you can HOPE for is that clear to clear will produce late onset. But having said that I am now in lurk mode VBG
Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] International & Experience > Suze, it isn't necessarily that we are all thinking that if we breed clear > dogs to clear dogs we will get clear dogs. It is more that we all know > for a dead certainty that if we breed affected diseased dogs to affected > diseased dogs, we will produce affected diseased puppies. Myra Savant > > > > > >From: Laura Trunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] International & Experience > >Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:54:03 -0500 > > > > > There is NO immediate promise from any cardiologist, > >opthamologist > >or > > > orthopedic specialist to whom I have spoken that progeny from any animal > > > they examined will be healthier. Polygenetic disorders don't improve > > > that way as you know. So far as I am aware there is not even any > > > promise of long term improvement in terms of eliminating MVD or > > > RD...even HD from the population. > > > The "promise" is a *hope* of improvement in the long term. That is what > > > I meant about breeding selectively for health is for the improvement of > > > the breed; not for today's buying public. > > > >So these experts specifically told you that if you take Ch. MVD Clear at > >Seven Stud Dog (by Ch. MVD Clear Till Seven Stud Dog out of Ch. Brood Bitch > >Clear Till Eight) and bred him to two bitches--Ch. MVD Clear at Seven Brood > >Bitch (by Ch. MVD Clear Till Nine Stud Dog out of Ch. MVD Still Clear at > >Ten > >Brood Bitch) and Ch. Brood Bitch Who Developed MVD at Age Three (by Ch. MVD > >Stud Dog Who Has Grade III MVD at Age Four out of Ch. Brood Bitch Who Has > >Grade I MVD at Age Four)--there won't be ANY difference WHATSOEVER between > >the children of those two bitches in regards to the *average* onset of MVD? > > > >Laura Trunk > >Roycroft Cavaliers > > > >========================================================= > >"Magic Commands": > >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > >to start it up gain click here: > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. > ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
