Cathy I am sorry to disagree with you and I am sure that most if not all of the UK judges on this list will agree with me. It matters not one jot with me who I socialise with pre a show where I am judging - the only thing I will not do is travel with an exhibitor. If you are doing the show circuit you get to know an awful lot of people and their dogs. Are you saying that those people should not show under you ? Because by implication you are saying that those known people/dogs are going to get preferential treatment. I reckon we would have a nil entry if people known to us were not to enter! VBG Your comment "some people have the judges bought long before they arrive in the US" I think is derogatory to overseas judges to say the least - have you not thought perhaps with the number of exports that there have been in the last few years that the judge might recognise type and admire that type of dog over here in the UK ??
You judge yourself - I assume that once in the middle of the ring you concentrate on the dogs before you and put up what you consider the best dog on the day whoever is handling it. I certainly hope so and I surely hope that every dog is totally unknown to you!!! Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy J. Gish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Phoenix > Cynthia > I think you are being WAY to harsh on Cindy. I will bet you any amount of money > that those people have entered the show. I know Ted and Karin NEVER go to a show > without showing their dogs. Why are you being so mean to Cindy? > > The rules have always been for the judges not to have contact with people before > the show and we all know how political it can be. > > However, some people have the judges bought long before they arrive in the US. > And don't tell me they don't. And it seems more so in the past few years than > ever before. I think Mr. Watkins will do what he wants but it is not fair for the > other exhibitors to see our club members in a teaching seminar with one of the > weekends judges and then show under them. I would never do this because if my > dogs did win under that judge everyone would be talking about it and I like my > wins CLEAN. > > Cindy has been around far longer than you have and she has seen a lot more > political games played. She knows what she is talking about. She is not as naive > as some people think. She just does not let everyone know how smart she really > is. > > Why would COTW set up a seminar with the judge before he judges they never have > in the past. It just does not look right. And I have not recieved a premium list > yet. Who is sending them out? > > Cathy J. Gish > > "" wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/16/2002 8:33:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > I just was looking at the premium for the Phoenix show and I noticed > > > that the seminar on Friday is with the Judges and three of our members > > > who are showing their dogs the next day. > > Cindy, I think this is incorrect. As an active COTW member ( and former COTW > > Show Sec.)..and someone planning on going to this show, FYI...I know.....this > > seminar consists of the Saturday judge (English...Peter Watkins)...Barbara > > Garnett-Wilson (COTW President)...Karin Ostmann (USA) and Ted > > Eubanks(USA).......as former COTW Show Secretary, I can tell you that there > > is NO WAY you (or anyone else) can know for sure that any of these people > > (only three are qualified) have ENTERED the show...as 1) Entries have not > > closed and 2) only the COTW Show Secretary knows who has/has not entered.... > > So are you asking that they be refrained from showing?......or do you not > > want us to have this seminar...??? I personally know they had to be coerced > > into doing the seminar in the first place....for FREE. > > Why are you against it? Do you not trust the judges? If so, why enter in > > the first place? You know that I am very close to some of these > > people....and so are you..so I really question your question. > > > > Regards, > > Cynthia Scanlan > > > > ========================================================= > > "Magic Commands": > > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > > to start it up gain click here: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > > -- > http://www.FlyingColorsCavaliers.com > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
