Cynthia
I think you are being WAY to harsh on Cindy. I will bet you any amount of money
that those people have entered the show. I know Ted and Karin NEVER go to a show
without showing their dogs. Why are you being so mean to Cindy?

The rules have always been for the judges not to have contact with people before
the show and we all know how political it can be.

However, some people have the judges bought long before they arrive in the US.
And don't tell me they don't. And it seems more so in the past few years than
ever before. I think Mr. Watkins will do what he wants but it is not fair for the
other exhibitors to see our club members in a teaching seminar with one of the
weekends judges and then show under them. I would never do this because if my
dogs did win under that judge everyone would be talking about it and I like my
wins CLEAN.

Cindy has been around far longer than you have and she has seen a lot more
political games played. She knows what she is talking about. She is not as naive
as some people think. She just does not let everyone know how smart she really
is.

Why would COTW set up a seminar with the judge before he judges they never have
in the past. It just does not look right. And I have not recieved a premium list
yet. Who is sending them out?

Cathy J. Gish

"" wrote:

> In a message dated 1/16/2002 8:33:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > I just was looking at the premium for the Phoenix show and I noticed
> > that the seminar on Friday is with the Judges and three of our members
> > who are showing their dogs the next day.
> Cindy, I think this is incorrect.  As an active COTW member ( and former COTW
> Show Sec.)..and someone planning on going to this show, FYI...I know.....this
> seminar consists of the Saturday judge (English...Peter Watkins)...Barbara
> Garnett-Wilson (COTW President)...Karin Ostmann (USA) and Ted
> Eubanks(USA).......as former COTW Show Secretary, I can tell you that there
> is NO WAY you (or anyone else)  can know for sure that any of these people
> (only three are qualified) have ENTERED the show...as  1) Entries have not
> closed and  2) only the COTW Show Secretary knows who has/has not entered....
>  So are you asking that they be refrained from showing?......or do you not
> want us to have this seminar...???   I personally know they had to be coerced
> into doing the seminar in the first place....for FREE.
> Why are you against it?  Do you not trust the judges?  If so, why enter in
> the first place?  You know that I am very close to some of these
> people....and so are you..so I really question your question.
>
> Regards,
> Cynthia Scanlan
>
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