Well, yes, I realize that there are variations in how a debarking surgery
will turn out, but I was speaking to the options of two types of surgery.
One cuts the cords and the other is done from the outside of the throat and
removes the cords completely. I would opt for the one that cuts the cords
and leaves a whisper bark. I know of one breeder (a hunter who    breed
field dogs who has 7 dogs in a subdivision where the houses are very close
together) who has the other type done where they go in from the outside of
the throat and clean out the cords so no bark is left. Plus, there are many
variations in between as each vet has their own way of doing things. If this
surgery was necessary, I would check out the different vets and go with one
who is familar with the surgery and all the options that are available.

Please remember that I am not advocating debarking as a general rule. It
should only be done in extreme circumstances. As far as the hunter mentioned
above, he is a minister in his 50's who moves every 5 or 6 years and has had
dogs since he was in college. This is how he manages to have a large house
in the nice neighborhood for all the entertaining that he  has to do because
of his job and is still able to keep his hunting dogs. I would try for a
house with more land, but he has to think of easy resale and other options.
Besides that, this is the US and there is freedom to make our own decisions
or should be. Too often these days people want to tell everyone else how to
live their lives.
All the best,
Susan Cochran

----- Original Message -----
From: "Claudia Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Debarking


> In a message dated 3/1/02 9:45:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> > There are
> > several options when debarking. You can have the bark lessened to a
> > "whisper" bark  or you can have the bark totally removed.
>
> hi susan,
> when i worked at the animal hosp, because we dealt with so many breeders,
we
> did alot of debarks.  this is not necessarily true.  every dogs vocal
chords
> are a different width and sometimes their chords are too thin to be able
to
> remove very much, making them able to bark a little louder.  the dogs with
> the thicker chords seemed to come out quieter.  there are also the dogs
that
> learn to bark around the debark and even when done a second time, can
still
> bark quite loudly.  we found that giving a tranquilizer after surgery for
2
> or 3 days helped heal the chords a little better and the volumn down.  i
> actually had one that the first time he was done came home and every time
he
> barked it came out a whistle. then the voice came back and having him done
a
> second time did nothing.
>
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