It generally doesn't take away the only form of conversation.  They still
bark and they can still be heard.  It is just about 20-30 decibels lower.
Living with a half dozen shelties could actually constitute a human health
hazard; the owners may sustain hearing loss -- much like factory workers or
punk rockers.

Leanne

----- Original Message -----
> > They feel it is
> > cruel to keep "shushing" the dog all the time, and cruel to insist that
> > they
> > ignore their instincts.
>
>
> Oh yeah, much more cruel than to take their only form of conversation
away.
> Sorry, I still don't agree.
>
> Cindy Gurklies

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