Terry The dogs are registered with the Kennel Club. The Kennel Club is just a registration body just the same as any registration body - keen to take your money to provide a slip of paper with the pups name on and the sire and the dams name on. VBG Even that information depends on the integrity of the breeder. What happens afterwards is where the difference comes in. As Diane writes quite correctly most wishing to register with CKCSC or AKC in order to show or breed have contacted a breeder, entered into a dialogue with them purchased, had the pup shipped out with what ever health testing information that is available etc etc They are purchasing off "known" breeders for the want of another word - likewise the breeder is usually selling to someone they know or who has been recommended to them . Where people get problems coming into the breed without doing any research is answering the ads in the dog papers or on the Internet under the misguided impression that dogs from overseas are in some way healthier than those in the US They then get told a very plausible tale about selling for an aunt, sister etc - the dog is KC registered but that is all - no information on health etc. These puppies can appear less expensive at first - no shipping costs etc. the broker can afford to include that in the price and still make a handsome profit. I will say that not all puppies exported in this manner come from puppy farms - you know doubt read in the press last year about an American being arrested with goodness knows how many puppies in the back of her car. Some of those puppies had been bought from small breeders like myself who thought they were selling to someone living in this country who was wanting a pet for themselves. Once the transfer of ownership part of the registration certificate is signed and handed over to the new owner there is little that can be done about it particularly if you have not ticked the box that says "export pedigree not to be issues" or words to that effect Someone fairly near here was "conned" in this manner and was devastated when he found out when the story hit the press. So not only is it a case of buyer "beware" in the US but also breeder "beware" in this country - all may not seem as it first appears! It is not easy to trace what happens to a puppy once you have sold it unless you get the KC Breed supplement which is published 3 monthly, in arrears I might add ( a bit late if the pup has been whipped out of the country the next week) The Irish Kennel Club has a system which has merit I think but their registration body is much smaller than the UK one, but it does give you a starting point I think more quickly than the KC one does. For example - last year one of my boys was used at stud - the owner of the litter sold one of the puppies to someone in Southern Ireland. The IKC just recently informed me that this puppy had been registered with them. At least I was able to verify with the breeder of the pups that the person she sold to was known to her etc etc
I hope this "enlightens" !! LOL Regards Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Zdrodowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Breeding Stock > > How is a KC registered import from Annette out of her lovely breeding program and > > a KC registered import from a puppy farm or BYB that may be just down the street > > from her different in terms of eligibility? You wrote that the CKCSC will > > register imports from recognized registries. The KC is a recognized registry. > > Please enlighten me as now I am beyond confused, oh well, consistency is a good > > thing LOL > > > > Terrie:) > > Terrie - > > I think Annette will have to help answer this. Most people who buy dogs > reregistered to the English KC and spend the money to pay for them, pay > to ship them and pay to register them in the US at a cost of $50 each > for the AKC and CKCSC are not starting out with a dog form a BYB or > puppy farm in England. Why should they? They can get the same thing > here for a lot less money? <G> I think some of the hypothetical > questions being posed here are just beyond reality - my opinion. > > Diane Zdrodowski > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
