Actually Myra I was responding to a post of yours where you were suggesting
to someone that they read a book on canine genetics - nothing to do with
Suze or anything that she wrote
As for not following the discussion very well you are probably right  -
there has been three days of "hot air" expressed on this list (I could use a
more impolite phrase but my mother taught me not to swear in public! VBG)
A subject or rather two related subjects that have been "done to death"
several times to my knowledge in the past three years and no doubt before
that and to say that as an outsider it becomes a bit tedious and in
consequence my delete finger works over time.
I could rabbit on at great length about my personal views as an outsider but
no doubt I would be told to mind my own business and get suspended or even
booted out! LOL

Annette
----- Original Message -----
From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 4:08 AM
Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] IIA 3/not a new amendment


> I don't think you have been following this discussion very well, Annette.
> The reference to canine genetics and books about canine genetics was to
> illustrate that dogs have been being used for "proving" or test breedings
at
> a young age for many, many years.  Suze didn't invent the term, nor do
> anything that wouldn't be generally accepted in the normal breeding
> population.  It is commonly done.  Myra
>
>
> >From: Annette Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] IIA 3/not a new amendment
> >Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 03:37:03 +0100
> >
> >Geez Myra here's me been thinking for the last 25 years that to use a dog
> >at
> >10-12 months old was to "prove" him  -  that is that he was fertile - now
I
> >learn from you that it is all to do with canine genetics - amazing!
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:44 PM
> >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] IIA 3/not a new amendment
> >
> >
> > > Well, then you need to get a couple of good genetics books and read up
> >on
> > > dog breeding.  You probably need to learn the definition of a "test"
> >litter
> > > as defined by a canine geneticist.  Myra
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Winnie Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
> > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] IIA 3/not a new amendment
> > > >Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:40:13 -0400
> > > >
> > > > >  So, then it is all right with you if I take these two "cleared"
> >dogs
> > > > > and breed them and sell pets to you?
> > > >
> > > >Nope.  Nor would it be ok with me that you bred the dog at age one.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Winnie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 5:43 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] IIA 3/not a new amendment
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, Winnie,
> > > > >         Which tests and what "clearances"?
> > > > >         I take potential sire A to a cardiologist and get a
> >"clearance"
> > > >at age
> > > > > 2.5, have done his hips (lets say they are fair but no displasia),
> > > > > patellas are fine and he has been cleared by CERF.  Let's even go
> > > > > further and say that I know his parents are "heart clear" at age
> >five.
> > > > > He's a nice fellow and temperament "tests" (by some standard or
> >other)
> > > > > just fine.  What I might not mention is that his line is known for
> > > > > epilepsy, his "proving litter" at age one had two offspring with
> >severe
> > > > > allergy/immune problems and on the dam's side (also has her
> > > > > "clearances") there seems to be some difficulty with cancer, PDA
> >murmurs
> > > > > and overbite.
> > > > >         So, then it is all right with you if I take these two
> >"cleared"
> > > >dogs
> > > > > and breed them and sell pets to you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Suze
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