> I have come to the conclusion that this gentleman takes great delight in
> making assumptions or deliberately misinterpreting people's comments.

I think there is even more misinterpretation of *this gentleman* than the
other way around.  Stop and think for a minute!  This gentleman you are
mentioning has not overreacted or done anything unusual in the situation
regarding the purchase of his own show prospect Cavalier.  If you were
interpreting his words correctly, his reaction to what happened to his own
dog would have been quite different from what is really happening!  So you
need to step back a minute and figure out why this is happening.

There are several countries with several different type *cultures* involved
on this list.  That is a big problem.  Some countries have done things
differently for decades--not just years.  Another problem.  The U.S. culture
is a whole 'nother story--big, BIG problem (the biggest consumers of the
world!).

There is no doubt there are many U.S. breeders asking obnoxious prices for
young show puppies--sometimes thousands of dollars above the price of a pet
puppy.  I have experienced it and hear almost weekly from others who have
too.  To think that these people should be allowed to sell 12 week old
puppies for a top show price without having to be responsible when the puppy
doesn't turn out is preposterous.  Those of you who sell show prospects for
the same price as pet puppies are not in this group and shouldn't consider
yourself as one of the breeders this gentleman is talking about and
therefore shouldn't feel the need to defend yourself.   I have no idea why
you are!

I don't understand why others can't hear what he is saying.  I am hearing it
clearly.  He does not expect anything ridiculous or unusual.  He knows sh--
can happen.  Pretty much all of us do.

I have to agree with him.  I see no reason on earth why if a breeder
sells a show puppy for a price that is higher than regular pet price and
this puppy does not turn out good enough (by good enough I mean typey
enough, healthy enough and with a good enough temperament) to be at the very
least a positive contributor to a breeding program, that the breeder
shouldn't take some responsibility and offer the difference between pet and
show puppy to the buyer or offer another show puppy at pet price or
something.

It just seems so simple to me, probably because I live in the U.S.--home of
the biggest consumers.  If the
puppy turns out to be ONLY a pet, it should COST ONLY as much as a pet--at
least to me!  This seems so common sense like!  But I recognize it may
be harder for those in other countries to think the way we in the U.S.
almost have to--people
in different countries tend to act quite differently (one example--the
monstrous problem the U.S. has with unwanted pets as compared to
some other countries).

If you expect every newbie to know all this before they buy their first
puppy, you are expecting too much.  I doubt more than a few of you knew that
much when you purchased your first show prospect.  I know I didn't know
*that* much!  We all have to start somewhere.  The ones that do know--they
usually came from another breed and are not technically new to the show
scene!  They already know the ropes.

I think it is only fair to treat new show buyers with respect and take some
responsibility if you
are going to sell a puppy for a price that is more than what you sell your
pet puppies for.  If you sell them for the same price--good for you!  If you
sell them at 12 months of age or more already health cleared--great!  But if
you are determined to
sell a young show prospect for more than you sell your pet puppies for, and
that puppy ends up being NO more than a pet--that owner did not get what
they paid for.  The owner will have to start over from scratch due to no
fault of their own and I would think any breeder would WANT to help out, to
give them a headstart.  We are not talking *freebie* here--just help.  I
would refund the difference between pet and show or offer a new puppy at pet
price--I could not turn my back and say *sorry it didn't work out, how about
another show prospect for $(more than pet price)!*  I don't see this kind
behavior as extravagant, unusual or anything.  It just seems like the
responsible, nice thing to do--common sense to me.

Let's be more KIND to people new to the whole scene.  You may feel better
about
yourself and just may not feel the need to jump on others so quickly.

Laura Lang

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