> Leanne, now I KNOW I've got something wrong going on with my labs.  You
> are getting accurate use of progesterone with just two tests?  We take a
> baseline and then send every other day until over 2ng; then one last one
> to make sure the bitch is coming out............
> and still the numbers can be weird....

Animal Clinic Northview sends their blood to a human hospital lab for
progesterone testing.  If you get it in by noon, results are back by 3:30
p.m. that day.  In by 5 p.m., results back by 9 a.m. the next morning.

I'm not sure I've ever had to do more than 2 tests, except on problem
bitches.  I usually do a test around day 7 or 8, depending on how the bitch
is acting and looking.  In most cases it is close to 1, sometimes up to 2.
If it is 1 or less, I wait 3 days to do another test, if 2 or more I wait 2
days.  Just about all of them are 5 or over at the second test.  I either
breed the next day and 2 days later, or only 2 days later when doing just
one breeding.  The only bitch I've had miss in 5 or more years was one we
did the chilled semen on.  To be honest, we had extenuating circumstances on
that one.  She ovulated on Friday, but the dog couldn't be collected until
Saturday morning.  FedX wouldn't deliver till Monday and we couldn't get an
airline to do it before.  So the semen was over 48 hours old and the bitch
was not inseminated on the *best* day either.  Probably no surprise she
didn't get pregnant.  This time all went perfect, no shipment was en route
more than 12 hours, she was inseminated days 1 and 3 after ovulation.   No
teaser bitch was used, Camelot kit used, both vaginal inseminations.   She
will be 21 days along by Thursday--I should know by next weekend if she is
pregnant!  I am crossing my fingers.  I would so like for chilled to
work--it seems so much easier than shipping.  But if I get a lot of misses
or 1 or 2 puppy litters, I will be back to shipping.  Not such a good thing
with the heat here in the summer and the cold in the winter.  I have a bitch
*stranded* at my house now because of the heat and it has happened to my own
bitches several times as well.  There just has to be a *best* way to do
chilled--one that works most of the time for this breed.  If we can figure
it out, it will help many others.

Laura Lang

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