You are right. Arthritis is simply an inflammation of a joint-- it can be any joint from vertebrae to pinkie. A dog can have arthritis in other parts of the body without having HD. However, there is no HD without arthritis and that is what I was pointing out. Arthritis of the hip joint IS hip dysplasia.
All the best, Susan Cochran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] was Tri colors now health in colors > Hi, Susan, > Of course you are right if the arthritis is in the socket. Though I do > wonder if a well fit socket would still suffer arthritis in old age to > some extent? However......arthritis anywhere in the back assembly would > be painful. I'm mindful of how hard it is to diagnose some lameness > issues in horses. (We use local blocks to isolate the pain to diagnose > it). Hip displasia is easily diagnosed on xray for sure; but only the > owner of a painful dog would know if it was the hip socket and not the > back vertebrae or other joint pain. > > I'm just saying that if one sees a painful dog, one cannot assume hip > displasia. > > Best, > > Suze > > Susan Cochran wrote: > > Arthritis is a part of HD. How can you separate the two?? The ill-fitting > > joint causes the ball of the hip to flatten and grind against the socket. > > This sets up an arthritic condition which is the inflammation of the joint. > > Arthritis and HD go "hand in hand". > > > > All the best, > > Susan Cochran > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "PAMoesinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 5:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] was Tri colors now health in colors > > > > > > > >>>I think if you would talk to a geneticist they would think it quite odd > >> > > to > > > >>>find some breeders so concerned about RD in a breed such as the > >>>Cavalier--which doesn't go blind from it--and only mildly (or not at > >> > > all) > > > >>>concerned about hip dysplasia which does cause pain in most dogs at some > >>>point in life and can be excrutiatingly painful and crippling. > >>> > >>>Laura Lang > >> > >> > >>Sorry Laura........but I find this a generalizing statement regarding MOST > >>dogs (I took this to mean cavaliers) being in pain at some point in life > > > > due > > > >>to HD. > >>I don't share your opinion about this and want people on the list hoping > > > > to > > > >>learn more to know...........there are definately TWO schools of thought > > > > as > > > >>to the debilitating issue of HD in cavaliers. > >>Just as in humans.......Arthritis is more of a culprit for pain and > >>stiffness in the joints than HD I think. > >> > >>I think disability from HD in cavaliers is too overestimated. > >> > >>I agree about auto-immune problems.......they are on the rise and greatly > >>outnumber crippled cavaliers. > >> > >>pam > >>************************* > >>PAMoesinger > >>Pampurred CKCS-JChin, NJ > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://users.rcn.com/toyspan/ > >> > >>========================================================= > >>"Magic Commands": > >>to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > >>mailto:LISTSERV@;APPLE.EASE.LSOFT.COM?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > >>to start it up gain click here: > >>mailto:LISTSERV@;APPLE.EASE.LSOFT.COM?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > >> > >> E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > >>Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >> > >>All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > > > > > > ========================================================= > > "Magic Commands": > > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > > mailto:LISTSERV@;APPLE.EASE.LSOFT.COM?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > > to start it up gain click here: > > mailto:LISTSERV@;APPLE.EASE.LSOFT.COM?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > > > > > -- > Suze at Llawen Cavaliers > "...I have seen that in any great undertaking it is not enough for a man > to depend simply upon himself." -Isna Ia-wica > "Thought comes before speech" Luther Standing Bear > > (c) Susan A. 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