On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:46 PM, cageface wrote: > > I have to agree with this. I wouldn't dream of giving somebody Clojure > as a first language. If I really wanted to teach an s-expr language as > a first language I'd use one of the nice integrated scheme > environments. I don't think the goals of making Clojure a little > easier to start with and keeping it a "professional" language are > necessarily totally at odds but efforts to build something like > Processing or even DrScheme on it seem misdirected.
Why use Scheme when Clojure is so much nicer in so many respects? I could teach almost exactly the same stuff that I'd teach in a Scheme-based intro course in Clojure instead. I wouldn't get to a lot of Clojure's more interesting features but all of the basic stuff I'd cover would be almost identical, and for some things (e.g. things using vectors and maps) it would make life quite a bit easier. Creating a programming environment that makes this possible -- basically just making it a little easier to download, install, and get started with something along the lines of NetBeans/Enclojure -- wouldn't hurt any power users or anyone else. It would just permit a wider range of users to get started with less effort. -Lee -- Lee Spector, Professor of Computer Science School of Cognitive Science, Hampshire College 893 West Street, Amherst, MA 01002-3359 lspec...@hampshire.edu, http://hampshire.edu/lspector/ Phone: 413-559-5352, Fax: 413-559-5438 Check out Genetic Programming and Evolvable Machines: http://www.springer.com/10710 - http://gpemjournal.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
