> (3) tooltips using a modified TipTip jQuery plugin tool, for people like me 
> who like its look & feel better than (2).
>     
> http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/cheatsheet-full.html


I like that one - looks cool - very helpful!!

Thanks, Frank.



On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Andy Fingerhut wrote:

> Welcome, Pierre.
> 
> Thanks for the info.  My current thinking is to start publishing on 
> clojure.org two, or maybe even three versions of the cheatsheet:
> 
> (1) no tooltips, just like the one published now, in case people find them 
> annoying:
>     http://clojure.org/cheatsheet
> 
> (2) tooltips with the title attribute, for those that prefer 
> web-standards-compliant pages, such as this one:
>     
> http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/cheatsheet-title-attribute.html
> 
> (3) tooltips using a modified TipTip jQuery plugin tool, for people like me 
> who like its look & feel better than (2).
>     
> http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/cheatsheet-full.html
> 
> The nice thing is that all three of these are currently generated from the 
> same program.  Not only are those three pages generated, but also several 
> variations of A4-size and US letter-size PDF files, with links (but no 
> tooltips in the PDF -- I don't know how to do that if it is even possible).  
> So far, it is still pretty straightforward for me to add a new symbol or 
> category to the cheatsheet, and regenerate all of these things in a minute.
> 
> There shouldn't need to be any argument over which of these should be "the 
> one".  I say publish them all, with an easy way to get from one version to 
> another in case you change your mind which one you want to use.
> 
> And if I am stretching what a tooltip is meant to be, and thereby join the 
> ranks of web-standards-heathens who stretch the original intent of these 
> mechanisms, I do so proudly :-)
> 
> Andy
> 
> On Mar 25, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Pierre Mariani wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, March 24, 2012 11:59:49 PM UTC-7, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
>> I've tried again using links with doc strings as the values of the title 
>> attribute, but when the text in Firefox 11.0 it does not honor the line 
>> breaks in my text, but reflows it.  Try it out yourself at [1]:
>> [1] 
>> http://homepage.mac.com/​jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-​clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/​cheatsheet-title-attribute.​html
>> 
>> Is there a way that Firefox will let me specify where line breaks should go? 
>>  If I put <pre> or <br> tags in the text of a title attribute, those just 
>> show up literally in the text that the browser displays in the tool tip.  I 
>> have line breaks in the title attribute value in my HTML, but Firefox seems 
>> to be ignoring those.
>> 
>> Safari and Chrome seem to honor the line breaks in the title attribute, but 
>> they make the popup windows so narrow that the lines break in the middle, in 
>> addition to where I put my line breaks, which is better but not great.  Is 
>> there a way to tell the browser to make the popup windows wider?
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> This is my first post to the list, so hi everybody!
>> 
>> Andy,
>> 
>> Tooltips are being rendered by the browser itself and you cannot control 
>> their aspect with HTML or CSS.
>> This bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358452 seems to be 
>> related to your issue, and it indicates that the behavior you are looking 
>> for should be implemented in FF12. Unfortunately, that doesn't fix it for 
>> other browsers, or older versions of FF.
>> 
>> Sorry if it sounds critical and isn't very helpful at this stage, but I 
>> think the concept of tooltip is being stretched a little here. The 'title' 
>> attribute is not meant to contain one or several paragraphs of formatted 
>> text, and as such I would expect that you may run into more issues like this 
>> in the future.
>> I would personally use DL lists, have each function name in a DT and the 
>> corresponding docstring in a DD. I would then have a CSS sheet targeted at 
>> screen and handheld media hide the docstrings, and I would have javascript 
>> code show them on mouse hover and hide them on mouse out. I think that would 
>> ensure best semantical fit of content to HTML tags, best accessibility for 
>> visually impaired people, and reliable cross-browser behavior.
>> 
>> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/lists/dl.html
>> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/lists/dt.html
>> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/lists/dd.html
>> http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_mediatypes.asp
>> 
>> Pierre 
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