"There can be only one." :-) I prefer #3 as well. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Fingerhut <andy.finger...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Welcome, Pierre. > > Thanks for the info. My current thinking is to start publishing on > clojure.org two, or maybe even three versions of the cheatsheet: > > (1) no tooltips, just like the one published now, in case people find them > annoying: > http://clojure.org/cheatsheet > > (2) tooltips with the title attribute, for those that prefer > web-standards-compliant pages, such as this one: > > http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/cheatsheet-title-attribute.html > > (3) tooltips using a modified TipTip jQuery plugin tool, for people like > me who like its look & feel better than (2). > > http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/cheatsheet-full.html > > The nice thing is that all three of these are currently generated from the > same program. Not only are those three pages generated, but also several > variations of A4-size and US letter-size PDF files, with links (but no > tooltips in the PDF -- I don't know how to do that if it is even possible). > So far, it is still pretty straightforward for me to add a new symbol or > category to the cheatsheet, and regenerate all of these things in a minute. > > There shouldn't need to be any argument over which of these should be "the > one". I say publish them all, with an easy way to get from one version to > another in case you change your mind which one you want to use. > > And if I am stretching what a tooltip is meant to be, and thereby join the > ranks of web-standards-heathens who stretch the original intent of these > mechanisms, I do so proudly :-) > > Andy > > On Mar 25, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Pierre Mariani wrote: > > > > On Saturday, March 24, 2012 11:59:49 PM UTC-7, Andy Fingerhut wrote: >> >> I've tried again using links with doc strings as the values of the title >> attribute, but when the text in Firefox 11.0 it does not honor the line >> breaks in my text, but reflows it. Try it out yourself at [1]: >> >> [1] >> http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/cheatsheet-title-attribute.html<http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/cheatsheet-title-attribute.html> >> >> Is there a way that Firefox will let me specify where line breaks should >> go? If I put <pre> or <br> tags in the text of a title attribute, those >> just show up literally in the text that the browser displays in the tool >> tip. I have line breaks in the title attribute value in my HTML, but >> Firefox seems to be ignoring those. >> >> Safari and Chrome seem to honor the line breaks in the title attribute, >> but they make the popup windows so narrow that the lines break in the >> middle, in addition to where I put my line breaks, which is better but not >> great. Is there a way to tell the browser to make the popup windows wider? >> >> Andy >> > This is my first post to the list, so hi everybody! > > Andy, > > Tooltips are being rendered by the browser itself and you cannot control > their aspect with HTML or CSS. > This bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358452 seems to be > related to your issue, and it indicates that the behavior you are looking > for should be implemented in FF12. Unfortunately, that doesn't fix it for > other browsers, or older versions of FF. > > Sorry if it sounds critical and isn't very helpful at this stage, but I > think the concept of tooltip is being stretched a little here. The 'title' > attribute is not meant to contain one or several paragraphs of formatted > text, and as such I would expect that you may run into more issues like > this in the future. > I would personally use DL lists, have each function name in a DT and the > corresponding docstring in a DD. I would then have a CSS sheet targeted at > screen and handheld media hide the docstrings, and I would have javascript > code show them on mouse hover and hide them on mouse out. I think that > would ensure best semantical fit of content to HTML tags, best > accessibility for visually impaired people, and reliable cross-browser > behavior. > > http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/lists/dl.html > http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/lists/dt.html > http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/lists/dd.html > http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_mediatypes.asp > > Pierre > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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