Love the new cheatsheet!  Because no good deed go unpunished:  Can you make 
hiding the popup a little less sensitve?  I find myself looking at a popup 
and then unconsciously moving the mouse into the popup text and that causes 
the popup to disappear.

On Monday, March 26, 2012 2:25:17 PM UTC-7, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
>
> Welcome, Pierre.
>
> Thanks for the info.  My current thinking is to start publishing on 
> clojure.org two, or maybe even three versions of the cheatsheet:
>
> (1) no tooltips, just like the one published now, in case people find them 
> annoying:
>     http://clojure.org/cheatsheet
>
> (2) tooltips with the title attribute, for those that prefer 
> web-standards-compliant pages, such as this one:
>     
> http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/cheatsheet-title-attribute.html
>
> (3) tooltips using a modified TipTip jQuery plugin tool, for people like 
> me who like its look & feel better than (2).
>     
> http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/cheatsheet-full.html
>
> The nice thing is that all three of these are currently generated from the 
> same program.  Not only are those three pages generated, but also several 
> variations of A4-size and US letter-size PDF files, with links (but no 
> tooltips in the PDF -- I don't know how to do that if it is even possible). 
>  So far, it is still pretty straightforward for me to add a new symbol or 
> category to the cheatsheet, and regenerate all of these things in a minute.
>
> There shouldn't need to be any argument over which of these should be "the 
> one".  I say publish them all, with an easy way to get from one version to 
> another in case you change your mind which one you want to use.
>
> And if I am stretching what a tooltip is meant to be, and thereby join the 
> ranks of web-standards-heathens who stretch the original intent of these 
> mechanisms, I do so proudly :-)
>
> Andy
>
> On Mar 25, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Pierre Mariani wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 24, 2012 11:59:49 PM UTC-7, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
>>
>> I've tried again using links with doc strings as the values of the title 
>> attribute, but when the text in Firefox 11.0 it does not honor the line 
>> breaks in my text, but reflows it.  Try it out yourself at [1]:
>>
>> [1] 
>> http://homepage.mac.com/​jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-​clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/​cheatsheet-title-attribute.​html<http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/cheatsheet-clj-1.3.0-v1.4-tooltips/cheatsheet-title-attribute.html>
>>
>> Is there a way that Firefox will let me specify where line breaks should 
>> go?  If I put <pre> or <br> tags in the text of a title attribute, those 
>> just show up literally in the text that the browser displays in the tool 
>> tip.  I have line breaks in the title attribute value in my HTML, but 
>> Firefox seems to be ignoring those.
>>
>> Safari and Chrome seem to honor the line breaks in the title attribute, 
>> but they make the popup windows so narrow that the lines break in the 
>> middle, in addition to where I put my line breaks, which is better but not 
>> great.  Is there a way to tell the browser to make the popup windows wider?
>>
>> Andy
>>
> This is my first post to the list, so hi everybody!
>
> Andy,
>
> Tooltips are being rendered by the browser itself and you cannot control 
> their aspect with HTML or CSS.
> This bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358452 seems to be 
> related to your issue, and it indicates that the behavior you are looking 
> for should be implemented in FF12. Unfortunately, that doesn't fix it for 
> other browsers, or older versions of FF.
>
> Sorry if it sounds critical and isn't very helpful at this stage, but I 
> think the concept of tooltip is being stretched a little here. The 'title' 
> attribute is not meant to contain one or several paragraphs of formatted 
> text, and as such I would expect that you may run into more issues like 
> this in the future.
> I would personally use DL lists, have each function name in a DT and the 
> corresponding docstring in a DD. I would then have a CSS sheet targeted at 
> screen and handheld media hide the docstrings, and I would have javascript 
> code show them on mouse hover and hide them on mouse out. I think that 
> would ensure best semantical fit of content to HTML tags, best 
> accessibility for visually impaired people, and reliable cross-browser 
> behavior.
>
> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/lists/dl.html
> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/lists/dt.html
> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/lists/dd.html
> http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_mediatypes.asp
>
> Pierre 
>
>

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