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On Wednesday 09 October 2002 12:37, Jesse Kline wrote:
> > > call other OSes by their real names? should we not avoid presentations
> > > that contain more female skin than is usually held to be in "good
> > > taste"?
>
> OK maybe all the hardcore porn has desensitized me, but I don't think
> any of the images were outside the realm of "good taste". I think this
work for a respectable tech firm and put those pix in a presentation to show
to the clients. watch how fast your boss fires you (or at the very least
reprimands you, likely removing you from client relations altogether).
so yes, they were outside the realm of good taste given the context.
> has been blown (no pun intended) out of proportion.
> I would also like to remind you of what the great man Al Bundy once
> said, since the beginning of time, sex sells.
al bundy is a fictitious charicature of white male stupidity. taking him on as
a figurehead in your defense is probably counterproductive to your case.
of course, unless your point was that stupid and insensitive men would agree
that the pictures were fine. that i would agree with.
> Lets face it, even in this
> world full of Feminists and Liberals, this statement still holds true.
the point is that such material does offend and allienate a large sector of
the populace and that reflects upon CLUG. we learned nothing about your
presentation topic from those pictures, so losing them wouldn't have hurt a
thing, while the pictures you presented could very well be interpreted as
objectifying, demeaning and misogynistic. these are not things CLUG should be
faced with being associated with, for a myriad of reasons, including:
- potential for legal action
- respect for those who find such things offensive
- not giving fodder to those who would paint Linux in an unsavory light
- keeping the focus on technology, in particular Linux and Free software
> Just look at the majority of beer commercials, they use good looking
> women to sell their product to young-mid aged males.
good thing we aren't selling beer or selling to their target market. in fact,
we aren't even selling. we're promoting and supporting a specific set of
technologies.
> This would also describe a majority of the Linux population.
hmmm.. i wonder why this is the case? (hint: because women are actively
alienated from the technology world by the Boys Club mentality surrounding
all things technical.)
truly sad is that this even has to be brought up at all. =/
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Aaron J. Seigo
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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
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