There are corporate sites that offer Linux w/o name calling, and nudity
(IBM, Red Hat, Suse, etc). And people who are looking for a professional
level of Linux support are by far more likely to head there instead of any
of our sites.
Calling something Winblows here doesn't matter IM(not very)HO. This is a
tech site, and it's specifically targetted at Linux. When I come here, I do
not expect a perfect answer. I do not expect the level of support or
professionalism that I'd expect from a Paid support venue. What I do expect
is people who act like themselves, adn offer their best advice. Is it
always right? Speaking from experience, no it isn't. I believe you shot me
down on the very first post I ever made here. And if I'm not mistaken, the
second as well. But I'm still here. I suspect others are in similar
situations. It's my personality that means if Kevin sends a message, it'll
be longwinded. It's a piece of my personality that will cause my nose to
wrinkle at the sound of "Let's just run Microsoft", and that will be
reflected in my posts. Other people have different attitudes about it. And
that will show. I don't think it's god or bad. I just think that it is.
People are here at least as much for camaradrie as for support help
requests.
I can understand that it makes us look a bit less professional, and I
totally agree. But so what? Is micro$oft really any thing except shorthand
for "Redmond company convicted of predatory monopolistic practices in an
ever widening venue, starting with Windows, expanding to Office, IE, and
increasingly on servers, with a consistent history of high prices for poor
security, and mediocre reliability and exceptional virus propagation." In
my mind, M$ is an accurate reflection of the company.
Why pretend to be something we aren't? Nobody is going to come to this site
looking for Windows help. Why work to please someone who isn't part of our
target audience? I'd say quite the opposite actually. If I went to a WUG,
and heard that Linux sucked, I'd ask why, and request them to back up their
statement. I see no difference here.
And REALLY, is it anything new for it to be called Winblows? Is that REALLY
going to offend anyone? As much as I LOVE Novell (it might make me a
heretic, but I'd still rank it equal with Linux as a server OS), I know that
NovHell isn't everyone's choice, and that doesn't offend me.
Just call me RMS the second...
Kev.
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From: "Aaron J. Seigo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: (clug-talk) some quick notes
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hi everyone..
i have verified that the 19th is indeed a go @ Nexus. we have tables, and it
sounds like we will have various people bringing power, cables, mice, etc..
that has got to be the easiest/quickest planning/coordination for an event
ever. =)
i look forward to seeing you all there.
of course, that doesn't mean i want to be CC'd on every reply saying you'll
be
comming. getting one email via the CLUG list is usually good enough ;-) they
end up in same folder anyways (hoorah for filters!)
and now for a semi-random thought as i sit here on a sunday morning reading
my
CLUG email:
If we wish to promote Linux to non-Linux crowds, should we not respectfully
call other OSes by their real names? should we not avoid presentations that
contain more female skin than is usually held to be in "good taste"?
the assumption is that we wish to promote Linux, of course. if not, go on
calling it winblow$ and putting naked chix in your presentations. i have
nothing against humour or the human form, myself. i'm something of a fan of
both. it's more a matter of not wishing to offend others away from Free
software. were i either a woman or a Windows fan, i'd be pretty much out of
here by now.
*shrug* just a thought.
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Aaron J. Seigo
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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
- Albert Einstein
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