Aaron,

Take a look at the "To:" line.  Notice it has both the clug email and your
email address?  I hit "Reply", and that's what I got as reply to email
addresses.  No other person on this list has that issue.  I think the
problem is at your end.  Check your email program settings, the issue is
probably there.

Ian

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> From: Aaron J. Seigo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:23 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: (clug-talk) some quick notes
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> ai-eeee!
>
> to everyone: please stop cc'ing me on every reply! i am
> subscribed. i will get
> your email just fine through clug-talk. cc'ing me won't get it to
> me faster
> or make me consider it with more thought. it just makes my clug
> folder grow
> twice as fast. thanks.
>
> > do not expect a perfect answer.  I do not expect the level of support or
> > professionalism that I'd expect from a Paid support venue.  What I do
>
> this isn't about professionalism. it's about respect. there are
> elements of
> the linux community who happen to be extremeley hypocritical
> about this. they
> jump all over someone when they misspell or mispronounce or misstate
> something linux related in a linux-unfriendly article/talk, but then they
> turn around and do the same thing back quite purposefully!
>
> it's no surprise many tech pros look at that and view Linux as a
> hobbyist's
> toy for the socially maladjusted.
>
> > it always right?  Speaking from experience, no it isn't.  I believe you
> > shot me down on the very first post I ever made here.
>
> and i did it without calling you names. =) which is the point.
>
> >  And if I'm not mistaken, the second as well
>
> seems it was mark the second time, not me.
>
> >.  But I'm still here.  I suspect others are in
> > similar situations.  It's my personality that means if Kevin sends a
> > message, it'll be longwinded.  It's a piece of my personality that will
> > cause my nose to wrinkle at the sound of "Let's just run Microsoft", and
> > that will be reflected in my posts.  Other people have
> different attitudes
> > about it.  And that will show.  I don't think it's god or bad.  I just
> > think that it is. People are here at least as much for camaradrie as for
> > support help requests.
>
> of course ... and one can have all this and still be respectful
> for others.
>
> > I can understand that it makes us look a bit less professional, and I
> > totally agree.  But so what?
>
> as i said in my original email, if you don't care if anyone else
> ever runs
> linux, keep it up. if you do care that people still say "Let's just run
> Microsoft" then you may want to consider modifying your habits.
>
> > Is micro$oft really any thing except shorthand for
>
> it's also shorthand (in the minds of some, primarily those who
> use Windows)
> for: "I'm an immature Linux geek, which perfectly represents Linux. You
> professional people keep using software that is respectable."
>
> >  Nobody is going to come to this site looking for Windows help.
>
> people who use windows come here looking for linux help.
>
> > Why work to please someone who isn't part of our target audience?
>
> two reasons: some of them are part of our "target audience" (e.g.
> those who
> are just getting into Linux) and to be more friendly to those who are
> considering becoming part of our target audience.
>
> i've spoken with "windows people" who have no interest in trying
> Linux due to
> the shoddy attitudes of the boosters that surround it. they see
> it as being a
> sign of the maturity of the software. we always say that Linux is
> developed
> and supported by the community around it right? well, when the community
> seems immature and spiteful, that reflects upon the OS itself. we've made
> that connection in their mind (Linux <-> community) and people
> follow it to
> its logical conclusion.
>
> > And REALLY, is it anything new for it to be called Winblows?  Is that
>
> "well, we've always beaten up the skinny kid, why should we stop now?"
>
> how about: because it's the right thing to do.
>
> > REALLY going to offend anyone?
>
> yes.
>
> > Just call me RMS the second...
>
> even RMS respects that which he speaks out against.
>
> how hard is it to simply type MS, Microsoft, Windows, etc... knowing that
> you'll be helping instead of hurting? one would think that after
> the 10,000th
> time you've seen the pun it would cease to be amusing. one would
> also think
> it obvious that no one will take you seriously.
>
> again: if you don't care about how people think about Linux, go ahead.
>
> - --
> Aaron J. Seigo
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> "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
>     - Albert Einstein
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