> office. Shawn's little programming SIG is around 6-7 people who chat > without an agenda once a month. It might be fewer, if there weren't a > trickle of people, who drop in once, only to decide never again. So I > think I know where clug is headed under his presidency.
When I first read this message, I felt a number of differnt emotions. However, I believe this was an inadvertent post of a private message to the list. Having been guilty of fumble fingers myself, I can understand the slip. With regards to the comments, most of the points were discussed at the after meeting meeting last night, including the state of the progsig. What didn't come out is that the group made the choice, as a group, to be an informal gathering for now. As the "defacto" leader of the group, I respect this choice, and will continue to follow the wishes of the group. I use the term "defacto" here rather loosely - the group exists because I stepped up and organized the meetings, then the group gave me their support through a series of emails to be the leader (as opposed to an election), the group has not expressed dissatisfaction with the job I've been doing, and more importantly, no one else has stepped forward to say they want the job. A comment was made regarding my organizational skills. I think the fact that the Programming SIG exists, and the fact we had a qmail workshop speak to this. Not to metion the next workshop (for Apache) has been discussed and will like happen before May. As for the rest of the message, Neils raises some good points. I had the opportunity to discuss this with him last night, and have an idea of the concerns he has, and the direction he would like to see the group move. With regards to Neils' message this morning (around 6:30am), I agree with most of the points, and am a little disappointed these topics haven't been talked about more (yet) on the list. I like the idea of the CLUG website becoming a resource for professionals and serious enthusiasts, but also feel this has to be balanced with newbie type resources. After being nominated last night, I decided I would need to do some deep thought, and decide if I would be a "placeholder" until a visionary unseats me (should I be elected), or if I had my own vision that I would like to implement. I don't like the idea of being a bench warmer, but would like a few more days to firm up my vision, and give some thought to how to accomplish it. I had every intention of making my views known sometime next week so the group could consider my "platform" - for lack of better terms - prior to the AGM. Neils, no offense taken - as we talked about last night. If I'm elected, I hope I'll have the chance to disabuse you of your view of me as a leader... :) That said though, I say this to the group at large: Nothing get's done until someone steps up and does what is needed. Thus far, I'm only aware of a few members of the group who will do this when needed. Will you step up? Shawn _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying

