Now that's not what I would call a feature! :)
J Neil Bower wrote: > This must be something that has been fixed. My mistake. At one time, any > config file touched by webmin would strip out the comments. > > Neil > > On Thursday 04 January 2007 01:16, Mitchell Brown wrote: >> In what way? When I go into the text-editor I still see things with >> #'s all over 'em. >> >> On 1/4/07, Neil Bower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Not picking one method or the other, but just wanted to add that Webmin > strips >>> out any comments that are located within a config file. This may or may > not >>> be important to people, but if you wish to have the comments in the config >>> files available at a later date, then make a back-up of these files before >>> firing up Webmin. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> On Wednesday 03 January 2007 15:24, Gustin Johnson wrote: >>>> TAB auto complete, screen, vim, tail -f /var/log/somelogfile >>>> >>>> Webmin cannot compete with this. It is an order of magnitude slower, >>>> especially for troubleshooting. >>>> >>>> Having said that, webmin certainly has its place, but most of the time >>>> it gets in the way. >>>> >>>> Jon wrote: >>>>> Great minds... :) >>>>> >>>>> I disagree that CLI is faster in all cases. I have so many servers now >>>>> that it's quite frequently easier to click, click, than it is to ssh, >>>>> type, type, type, type, type, type, type. >>>>> >>>>> However, it took me about a month to even start looking at the GUI >>>>> because I was so used to CLI. >>>>> >>>>> J >>>>> >>>>> Shawn wrote: >>>>> The problem with webmin though is that while the graphical interface > is >>>>> convenient, you STILL need to know what you are doing with the >>>>> underlying server. With samba, if you enter something for the > directory >>>>> mask and get this wrong, you'll either not be able to access your >>>>> shares, or the security will be too open. But this is a Samba > problem, >>>>> not a webmin problem. >>>>> >>>>> So, after you go through the trouble of learning how to deal with your >>>>> service, you quickly find webmin more gets in your way than helps you. >>>>> THe time it takes to open a browser, navigate to webmin, login, make > the >>>>> changes, save the changes - this adds a delay. If you understand your >>>>> service that well, it's so much faster to just edit the text file in >>>>> question, without the network lag of a web browser. >>>>> >>>>> And if you end up editing the config files directly because you now > know >>>>> enough to do so, then why do you need webmin?? :) >>>>> >>>>> I'm not saying "don't use webmin", but showing that webmin is but a >>>>> stepping stone in the path of server knowledge. >>>>> >>>>> On the other hand, seeing as webmin allows direct configuration of > your >>>>> servers, you need to take precautions to ensure it is not accessible > to >>>>> unauthorized folks. It should never be made accessible outside the >>>>> local network - unless you know what your doing with the security side >>>>> of it. Just a thought. >>>>> >>>>> Shawn >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jon wrote: >>>>>>>> That's the rub, yes. Webmin modules simply put a nice HTML GUI into > the >>>>>>>> various servers installed on a system. While it can apt-get (or > yum) >>> for >>>>>>>> you, in general it's not going to configure a server for you. The >>>>>>>> knowledge about how various apps should be configured still lies > with >>>>>>>> the user. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One thing that I do like GUIs for is that they frequently expose >>> options >>>>>>>> that are otherwise unapparent. The Samba webmin module is a good >>> example >>>>>>>> of a nice module that presents all of the 'obvious' Samba > functionality >>>>>>>> (like Unix/Samba user sync, for example) right in your face. It's > good >>>>>>>> for quick start stuff. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> J >>> >>> -- >>> Neil Bower >>> CLUG - http://clug.ca >>> Registered Linux User # 323470 >>> ( http://counter.li.org ) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> clug-talk mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>> **Please remove these lines when replying >>> >> >> -- >> pub 1024D/9091C422 02/05/2006 Mitchell Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Primary key fingerprint: 812B 94BC EA0D 345A CC1C 2ED9 F7F6 5CCF 9091 > C422 >> _______________________________________________ >> clug-talk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> **Please remove these lines when replying >> > _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
