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Webmin cannot compete with this. It is an order of magnitude slower, especially for troubleshooting. Having said that, webmin certainly has its place, but most of the time it gets in the way. Jon wrote: > Great minds... :) > > I disagree that CLI is faster in all cases. I have so many servers now > that it's quite frequently easier to click, click, than it is to ssh, > type, type, type, type, type, type, type. > > However, it took me about a month to even start looking at the GUI > because I was so used to CLI. > > J > > Shawn wrote: > The problem with webmin though is that while the graphical interface is > convenient, you STILL need to know what you are doing with the > underlying server. With samba, if you enter something for the directory > mask and get this wrong, you'll either not be able to access your > shares, or the security will be too open. But this is a Samba problem, > not a webmin problem. > > So, after you go through the trouble of learning how to deal with your > service, you quickly find webmin more gets in your way than helps you. > THe time it takes to open a browser, navigate to webmin, login, make the > changes, save the changes - this adds a delay. If you understand your > service that well, it's so much faster to just edit the text file in > question, without the network lag of a web browser. > > And if you end up editing the config files directly because you now know > enough to do so, then why do you need webmin?? :) > > I'm not saying "don't use webmin", but showing that webmin is but a > stepping stone in the path of server knowledge. > > On the other hand, seeing as webmin allows direct configuration of your > servers, you need to take precautions to ensure it is not accessible to > unauthorized folks. It should never be made accessible outside the > local network - unless you know what your doing with the security side > of it. Just a thought. > > Shawn > > > Jon wrote: >>>> That's the rub, yes. Webmin modules simply put a nice HTML GUI into the >>>> various servers installed on a system. While it can apt-get (or yum) for >>>> you, in general it's not going to configure a server for you. The >>>> knowledge about how various apps should be configured still lies with >>>> the user. >>>> >>>> One thing that I do like GUIs for is that they frequently expose options >>>> that are otherwise unapparent. The Samba webmin module is a good example >>>> of a nice module that presents all of the 'obvious' Samba functionality >>>> (like Unix/Samba user sync, for example) right in your face. It's good >>>> for quick start stuff. >>>> >>>> J >> >> _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFnC0VwRXgH3rKGfMRAubDAJ4+hS9s4GnRroQQTb2TxVvAo1Qx1wCePQwH tc0+F65ZOcJr6geM+zXS8UQ= =bM7K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
