Great minds... :)

I disagree that CLI is faster in all cases. I have so many servers now 
that it's quite frequently easier to click, click, than it is to ssh, 
type, type, type, type, type, type, type.

However, it took me about a month to even start looking at the GUI 
because I was so used to CLI.

J

Shawn wrote:
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> The problem with webmin though is that while the graphical interface is
> convenient, you STILL need to know what you are doing with the
> underlying server.  With samba, if you enter something for the directory
> mask and get this wrong, you'll either not be able to access your
> shares, or the security will be too open.  But this is a Samba problem,
> not a webmin problem.
> 
> So, after you go through the trouble of learning how to deal with your
> service, you quickly find webmin more gets in your way than helps you.
> THe time it takes to open a browser, navigate to webmin, login, make the
> changes, save the changes - this adds a delay.  If you understand your
> service that well, it's so much faster to just edit the text file in
> question, without the network lag of a web browser.
> 
> And if you end up editing the config files directly because you now know
> enough to do so, then why do you need webmin?? :)
> 
> I'm not saying "don't use webmin", but showing that webmin is but a
> stepping stone in the path of server knowledge.
> 
> On the other hand, seeing as webmin allows direct configuration of your
> servers, you need to take precautions to ensure it is not accessible to
> unauthorized folks.  It should never be made accessible outside the
> local network - unless you know what your doing with the security side
> of it.  Just a thought.
> 
> Shawn
> 
> 
> Jon wrote:
>> That's the rub, yes. Webmin modules simply put a nice HTML GUI into the 
>> various servers installed on a system. While it can apt-get (or yum) for 
>> you, in general it's not going to configure a server for you. The 
>> knowledge about how various apps should be configured still lies with 
>> the user.
>>
>> One thing that I do like GUIs for is that they frequently expose options 
>> that are otherwise unapparent. The Samba webmin module is a good example 
>> of a nice module that presents all of the 'obvious' Samba functionality 
>> (like Unix/Samba user sync, for example) right in your face. It's good 
>> for quick start stuff.
>>
>> J
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