HI Steve: Just to add to the listing…………..my 1977 38 is Hull #125; the original build paperwork shows that it was built in the “Bruckman Shop” and has the designation of MKIIC. Someone mentioned the PHRF ratings of the two……….New England PHRF rates the MKI at 111 and the MKII at 114. Go figure.
My experience is that a rating around 114 would be tough to sail to in our fleets up here. Adding the cruising allowance for a working roller furling adds 6 seconds to the racing rating.=120. That makes my “Cruising” rating 132 for a masthead rig. Since I use an ASYM instead of a Symmetrical Spinnaker. I can declare “no pole” and that adds 9 Seconds to the 120………so today, I’m sailing with a racing rating of 129 and the cruising rating of 132………..and the boat will definitely sail to those ratings. This boat looks and runs like new……….even better with the Yanmar Saildrive……………recommended by Rob Ball. Best, Ron C. Impromptu MKIIC…..’77 From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 38 mk1 vs mk2 Thanks for the replies guys. I guess I'm not crazy then! If the owners themselves don't know the difference I don't feel so bad. Also, it means the older boats are worth considering. I'm also reading mixed reports of cored vs non-cored hulls. Anyone care to comment on that one?? Mostly I read that they are cored all the way down. Thanks, Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM, ahycrace--- via CnC-List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Jim and Steve My 1976 hull# 99 has old perf papers that call it a mk I. I have been trying to find out the difference for years. At the Mystic rendezvous I asked Rob Ball and he didn't know said it might have been a marketing thing. .....................Gary Kolc......"Liberty" ---- jtsails via CnC-List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > Steve, the break between the Mk1 and Mk2 is a total mystery to me. I own Hull > #100 which was built in 1976 while Rick Brass has hull #47 built sometime in > 1975? All evidence indicates that my boat is a Mk2 while Rick's is a Mk1. I > have been on both boats and I'll be darned if I can find any difference and > in my opinion there is no difference. My guess is that C&C didn't like the > measurement certificate for the early boats and decided to call the next > years boat a Mk2 to get the boat remeasured (just a stab in the dark guess > though). Keep in mind that the 38 was designed as a large 1 tonner and the > Mk1 was rated slightly above the cut off. I have also noticed that the > brochures on the the website do not make any distinction in the different > years. Various sources list different dimensions for the beam measurement, > and again I can't spot it between the two boats. I suspect that is due to > measuring the beam on deck (narrower) versus the overall beam (wider). Some > of the sources list the Mk1 as being 6" narrower but that is about the amount > of tumblehome in the sides. PHRF also rates them the same. > James > S/V Delaney > 1976 C&C 38 > Oriental, NC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:46 AM > Subject: Stus-List C&C 38 mk1 vs mk2 > > > Hi All, > > > I can't seem to find what the cut-off date was for the 38 between the mk1 > and the mk2. Any ideas? I'm not buying a new boat anytime soon but you know, > window shopping and maintaining a short list. Sailboatdata lists the MK2 as > having IOR specific changes over the MK1, not sure what that means though? > The MK3 is a totally different boat. The 38 has really grown on me and I > think it's a really pretty boat. I've read that at least one or two have > circumnavigated and they are a lot of boat for the money. Just looking for > more info. > > > Thanks, > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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