Ron
       I'm looking at an old PHRF-NE (1996) out of Marion Ma. and the rating is 
117 with a 140% so I think that would be about 111 with a 150.

....................Gary Kolc........"Liberty" Hull # 99
---- Ron Casciato via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: 
> HI Steve:  Just to add to the listing…………..my 1977 38 is Hull #125; the 
> original build paperwork shows that it was built in the “Bruckman Shop” and 
> has the designation of MKIIC.  Someone mentioned the PHRF ratings of the 
> two……….New England PHRF rates the MKI at 111 and the MKII at 114.  Go figure.
> 
>  
> 
> My experience is that a rating around 114 would be tough to sail to in our 
> fleets up here.  Adding the cruising allowance for a working roller furling 
> adds 6 seconds to the racing rating.=120.   That makes my “Cruising” rating 
> 132 for a masthead rig.  Since I use an ASYM instead of a Symmetrical 
> Spinnaker. I can declare “no pole” and that adds 9 Seconds to the 120………so 
> today, I’m sailing with a racing rating of 129 and the cruising rating of 
> 132………..and the boat will definitely sail to those ratings. 
> 
>  
> 
> This boat looks and runs like new……….even better with the Yanmar 
> Saildrive……………recommended by Rob Ball.
> 
>  
> 
> Best,
> 
>  
> 
> Ron C.
> 
> Impromptu
> 
> MKIIC…..’77
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stevan 
> Plavsa via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:01 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 38 mk1 vs mk2
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for the replies guys. I guess I'm not crazy then! If the owners 
> themselves don't know the difference I don't feel so bad. Also, it means the 
> older boats are worth considering. I'm also reading mixed reports of cored vs 
> non-cored hulls. Anyone care to comment on that one?? Mostly I read that they 
> are cored all the way down.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve
> 
> Suhana, C&C 32
> 
> Toronto
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM, ahycrace--- via CnC-List 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
> 
> Jim and Steve
>                 My 1976 hull# 99 has old perf papers that call it a mk I.  I 
> have been trying to find out the difference for years. At the Mystic 
> rendezvous I asked Rob Ball and he didn't know said it might have been a 
> marketing thing.
> 
> .....................Gary Kolc......"Liberty"
> 
> ---- jtsails via CnC-List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
> > Steve, the break between the Mk1 and Mk2 is a total mystery to me. I own 
> > Hull #100 which was built in 1976 while Rick Brass has hull #47 built 
> > sometime in 1975? All evidence indicates that my boat is a Mk2 while Rick's 
> > is a Mk1. I have been on both boats and I'll be darned if I can find any 
> > difference and in my opinion there is no difference. My guess is that C&C 
> > didn't like the measurement certificate for the early boats and decided to 
> > call the next years boat a Mk2 to get the boat remeasured (just a stab in 
> > the dark guess though). Keep in mind that the 38 was designed as a large 1 
> > tonner and the Mk1 was rated slightly above the cut off. I have also 
> > noticed that the brochures on the the website do not make any distinction 
> > in the different years. Various sources list different dimensions for the 
> > beam measurement, and again I can't spot it between the two boats. I 
> > suspect that is due to measuring the beam on deck (narrower) versus the 
> > overall beam (wider). Some of the sources list the Mk1 as being 6" narrower 
> > but that is about the amount of tumblehome in the sides. PHRF also rates 
> > them the same.
> > James
> > S/V Delaney
> > 1976 C&C 38
> > Oriental, NC
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
> >   To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> >   Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:46 AM
> >   Subject: Stus-List C&C 38 mk1 vs mk2
> >
> >
> >   Hi All,
> >
> >
> >   I can't seem to find what the cut-off date was for the 38 between the mk1 
> > and the mk2. Any ideas? I'm not buying a new boat anytime soon but you 
> > know, window shopping and maintaining a short list. Sailboatdata lists the 
> > MK2 as having IOR specific changes over the MK1, not sure what that means 
> > though? The MK3 is a totally different boat. The 38 has really grown on me 
> > and I think it's a really pretty boat. I've read that at least one or two 
> > have circumnavigated and they are a lot of boat for the money. Just looking 
> > for more info.
> >
> >
> >   Thanks,
> >   Steve
> >   Suhana, C&C 32
> >   Toronto
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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