Danny:

One more Bene story and then I will quit.

A few years back, a club member had his 2 year old Bene 32 or 33 (not sure now the exact model) out for an afternoon sail. He said he had his main and a roller furler 135% working in about 10 knts true. As is often the case here, the breeze picks up later in the afternoon (3 pm ish) ...he said it hit about 16 knts true and he was feeling a bit overpowered going to weather.

He was beginning to prepare to tack and broad reach home when he heard an unusual loud noise......he didn't know where it came from.....he thought maybe something fell in the main cabin....his wife checked down below, nothing out of the usual.

When he was tying up at his slip, he found the source of the noise. His bow stem plate was pulled approx. 1 inch up from the deck. Shortly after the repair, his Bene was put up for sale.

Rob




On 2014/12/10 10:51 AM, Danny Haughey wrote:
yea, this is exactly what I am up against.  we sold Lolita and the admiral 
would like a jeanneau.  I can't bring myself to accommodate her.  The more I 
learned about the Jeanneau the more I realized I don't think I would not be 
happy with the construction/build quality.  We looked at a privately owed trade 
in.  A 2006 Jeanneau 40 and many cabinet knobs were missing, some hatch shades 
were pulled right out of the headliner where they were wood screwed in.  There 
was a locker in between 2 port side seats down below where the hing was ripped 
right out.  Most of the joinery was just screwed together with wood screws.  It 
appeared like it was done more by a homeowner as a weekend project than by a 
highly skilled craftsman...

I just couldn't imagine that type of failure, so obvious, on a privately owned, 
8 year old boat and feel comfortable with the rest of the construction.  I do 
think older jeanneaus were better built before Bene got hold of them. (bene was 
better built vessel years ago as well)  Then you look at the hardware, I had 
more substantial winches on our 33 Viking.

My wife absolutely LOVES the layout of these things.  They are voluminous, 
bright, they sit very high and have lots of port lights.  These are all very 
nice for hanging at the dock but I I can't help but think how these attributes 
would effect safety and comfort if we got caught in a blow with some decent 
sized waves.  How do you brace yourself?  I can just imagine the shuttering all 
those face screwed panels would do pounding into a good sea.

All this is based on gut reaction to what I have seen.  which is really just 
boat show boarding and a couple of showings as well as some reading up on 
construction techniques.

So we end up in a dilemma,  Make the admiral happy and me uncomfortable about 
the boat or, make me happy and the admirals feels she is in a tight, dark 
wooden box.  There really does not seem to be any middle ground in our price 
range...

How do you guys feel about the tartan built C&C 121 or 115.  I've read they really 
like 15knot winds and above.  I do think this is the one exception if the C&C 
quality is there.  They do have a nice bright interior and I think that would make the 
admiral happy.  I really don't have a great deal of knowledge of them.  They never 
really showed up at boat shows and there aren't too many available on the market.  They 
may also be a bit out of our price range.

Danny

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Quality Construction
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:10:46 -0400

At the club last week and noticed a fellow member tolling away on the
work bench behind our spar shed.......there is a big vice on it that
makes it convenient to do some jobs.

I walked over to say hello and discovered he was cutting out 'backing
plates'.....asked him where he was installing them.

He said his deck cleats on the bow of his recently purchased Beneteau 49
(30,000 lbs.) did not have backing plates....and he keeps his boat on a
mooring.

And he sold a C&C 41 for a Bene 49.....he said he is beginning to
discover the difference in the overall quality of construction between
the two boats.

Thought I would pass that little piece of information along to anyone
thinking of buying a quality built Bene!

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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