You should see what other people say about the new boats! Generally, the
consensus is that nothing is built to the level of quality that you would
expect in a boat for $150-$250 k (or higher).
But this might make you feel better that you own a tried and true old boat.
If nothing lese, all the problems that might have crept up have been already
fixed.
The flip side of it is that obviously manufacturers are building these boats
the way they do, because these are the boats that sell. There is nothing
wrong with the spacious interior, even at the cost of seaworthiness, if the
boat never leaves the moorings.
We are on a smallish body of water (you can sail up the river for about 30
nm), most of the boats in our Club are under 34 ft. But we had a 36 ft.
Beneteau - the biggest boat in the Club (nothing against the company) for
several years, whose owners never sailed her; rather, you could see them
quite often cleaning it up. If this is your way of using a boat, suddenly
your priorities on how it is built change dramatically.
just a thought
Marek
-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:51 AM
To: robertabb...@eastlink.ca ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Quality Construction
yea, this is exactly what I am up against. we sold Lolita and the admiral
would like a jeanneau. I can't bring myself to accommodate her. The more I
learned about the Jeanneau the more I realized I don't think I would not be
happy with the construction/build quality. We looked at a privately owed
trade in. A 2006 Jeanneau 40 and many cabinet knobs were missing, some
hatch shades were pulled right out of the headliner where they were wood
screwed in. There was a locker in between 2 port side seats down below
where the hing was ripped right out. Most of the joinery was just screwed
together with wood screws. It appeared like it was done more by a homeowner
as a weekend project than by a highly skilled craftsman...
I just couldn't imagine that type of failure, so obvious, on a privately
owned, 8 year old boat and feel comfortable with the rest of the
construction. I do think older jeanneaus were better built before Bene got
hold of them. (bene was better built vessel years ago as well) Then you
look at the hardware, I had more substantial winches on our 33 Viking.
My wife absolutely LOVES the layout of these things. They are voluminous,
bright, they sit very high and have lots of port lights. These are all very
nice for hanging at the dock but I I can't help but think how these
attributes would effect safety and comfort if we got caught in a blow with
some decent sized waves. How do you brace yourself? I can just imagine the
shuttering all those face screwed panels would do pounding into a good sea.
All this is based on gut reaction to what I have seen. which is really just
boat show boarding and a couple of showings as well as some reading up on
construction techniques.
So we end up in a dilemma, Make the admiral happy and me uncomfortable
about the boat or, make me happy and the admirals feels she is in a tight,
dark wooden box. There really does not seem to be any middle ground in our
price range...
How do you guys feel about the tartan built C&C 121 or 115. I've read they
really like 15knot winds and above. I do think this is the one exception if
the C&C quality is there. They do have a nice bright interior and I think
that would make the admiral happy. I really don't have a great deal of
knowledge of them. They never really showed up at boat shows and there
aren't too many available on the market. They may also be a bit out of our
price range.
Danny
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Quality Construction
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:10:46 -0400
At the club last week and noticed a fellow member tolling away on the
work bench behind our spar shed.......there is a big vice on it that
makes it convenient to do some jobs.
I walked over to say hello and discovered he was cutting out 'backing
plates'.....asked him where he was installing them.
He said his deck cleats on the bow of his recently purchased Beneteau 49
(30,000 lbs.) did not have backing plates....and he keeps his boat on a
mooring.
And he sold a C&C 41 for a Bene 49.....he said he is beginning to
discover the difference in the overall quality of construction between
the two boats.
Thought I would pass that little piece of information along to anyone
thinking of buying a quality built Bene!
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
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