Marek, There are "dock queens" everywhere, power and sail, all sorts of quality. Steve, the forces on your 27 are probably 1/10th of the forces on a 49. My 35/3 has backing plates on anything that is subject to a high load. I'm fortunate that if I ever want to upgrade the Admiral will consider how a boat sails and how well it is built before we get to cabin space. However, she wants a step-thru transom and aft centerline queen berth, (no longer than 44 feet due to my slip). My options will be limited (maybe a 37+?)! Someday!
Joel On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > You should see what other people say about the new boats! Generally, the > consensus is that nothing is built to the level of quality that you would > expect in a boat for $150-$250 k (or higher). > > But this might make you feel better that you own a tried and true old > boat. If nothing lese, all the problems that might have crept up have been > already fixed. > > The flip side of it is that obviously manufacturers are building these > boats the way they do, because these are the boats that sell. There is > nothing wrong with the spacious interior, even at the cost of > seaworthiness, if the boat never leaves the moorings. > > We are on a smallish body of water (you can sail up the river for about 30 > nm), most of the boats in our Club are under 34 ft. But we had a 36 ft. > Beneteau - the biggest boat in the Club (nothing against the company) for > several years, whose owners never sailed her; rather, you could see them > quite often cleaning it up. If this is your way of using a boat, suddenly > your priorities on how it is built change dramatically. > > just a thought > > Marek > > > -----Original Message----- From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:51 AM > To: robertabb...@eastlink.ca ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Quality Construction > > yea, this is exactly what I am up against. we sold Lolita and the admiral > would like a jeanneau. I can't bring myself to accommodate her. The more > I learned about the Jeanneau the more I realized I don't think I would not > be happy with the construction/build quality. We looked at a privately > owed trade in. A 2006 Jeanneau 40 and many cabinet knobs were missing, > some hatch shades were pulled right out of the headliner where they were > wood screwed in. There was a locker in between 2 port side seats down > below where the hing was ripped right out. Most of the joinery was just > screwed together with wood screws. It appeared like it was done more by a > homeowner as a weekend project than by a highly skilled craftsman... > > I just couldn't imagine that type of failure, so obvious, on a privately > owned, 8 year old boat and feel comfortable with the rest of the > construction. I do think older jeanneaus were better built before Bene got > hold of them. (bene was better built vessel years ago as well) Then you > look at the hardware, I had more substantial winches on our 33 Viking. > > My wife absolutely LOVES the layout of these things. They are voluminous, > bright, they sit very high and have lots of port lights. These are all > very nice for hanging at the dock but I I can't help but think how these > attributes would effect safety and comfort if we got caught in a blow with > some decent sized waves. How do you brace yourself? I can just imagine > the shuttering all those face screwed panels would do pounding into a good > sea. > > All this is based on gut reaction to what I have seen. which is really > just boat show boarding and a couple of showings as well as some reading up > on construction techniques. > > So we end up in a dilemma, Make the admiral happy and me uncomfortable > about the boat or, make me happy and the admirals feels she is in a tight, > dark wooden box. There really does not seem to be any middle ground in our > price range... > > How do you guys feel about the tartan built C&C 121 or 115. I've read > they really like 15knot winds and above. I do think this is the one > exception if the C&C quality is there. They do have a nice bright interior > and I think that would make the admiral happy. I really don't have a great > deal of knowledge of them. They never really showed up at boat shows and > there aren't too many available on the market. They may also be a bit out > of our price range. > > Danny > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Quality Construction > Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:10:46 -0400 > > At the club last week and noticed a fellow member tolling away on the > work bench behind our spar shed.......there is a big vice on it that > makes it convenient to do some jobs. > > I walked over to say hello and discovered he was cutting out 'backing > plates'.....asked him where he was installing them. > > He said his deck cleats on the bow of his recently purchased Beneteau 49 > (30,000 lbs.) did not have backing plates....and he keeps his boat on a > mooring. > > And he sold a C&C 41 for a Bene 49.....he said he is beginning to > discover the difference in the overall quality of construction between > the two boats. > > Thought I would pass that little piece of information along to anyone > thinking of buying a quality built Bene! > > Rob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S. > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -- Joel 301 541 8551
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