Bill

That's right.
Joel

On Thursday, October 27, 2016, BillBinaList via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I believe that if you have RADAR installed and operable, it is required to
> be in use at all times when underway regardless of visibility. I found a
> legal work-around, though. My display is on a removable bracket. When
> unplugged and stored in a cabinet, I no longer have "installed and
> operable" RADAR.
>
> Bill Bina
>
> On 10/27/2016 3:36 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Also if you have radar, you are legally required to use it in poor
> visibility.
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com');>] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:34 PM
> *To:* C&C List
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List AIS VHF
>
>
>
> Bill your ability to recall and cite information is remarkable!
>
> This text is similar to that of the regulations for VHF radios - Must be
> on and monitoring 16.
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2016 3:11 PM, "Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> wrote:
>
> *6. When must AIS be in operation?* Vessels equipped with AIS (either by
> mandatory carriage or voluntarily) must abide by the requirements set forth
> in 33 CFR 164.46(d)
> <http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=AISRequirementsRev#Operations> and
> should especially ensure their AIS is in properly installed, using an
> assigned MMSI, and, that its data is accessible from the primary conning
> position of the vessel. Also, that it be in 'effective operating
> condition', which entails the continuous operation of AIS and the accurate
> input and upkeep of all AIS data parameters (see USCG AIS Encoding Guide
> <http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/AIS/AISGuide.pdf>) during all times that
> the vessel is navigating (underway or at anchor), and, at least 15 minutes
> prior to unmooring, in U.S. navigable waters (as defined in 33 CFR 2.36
> <http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=8ce9de702cf895bec7bde7706fb6a95a&mc=true&node=se33.1.2_136&rgn=div8>).
> Should continual operation of AIS compromise the safety or security of the
> vessel or where a security incident is imminent, the AIS may be switched
> off. This action and the reason for taking it must be reported to the
> nearest U.S. Captain of the Port
> <http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=1355ca17fe5cef9f547f90ffed6800e5&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title33/33cfr3_main_02.tpl>
> or Vessel Traffic Center
> <http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=&SID=72dd2b28614391a354f4461de9cf63f1&r=PART&n=33y2.0.1.6.30#se33.2.161_112>
> and recorded in the ship's logbook. The AIS should return to continuous
> operation as soon as the source of danger has been mitigated.
>
> Bill Bina
>
>
>
> On 10/27/2016 3:07 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Your friend can turn off the transmitter either through software or a
> physical switch.  Commercial vessels will see you on radar, but with AIS
> they can hail you by name.  Other boaters with AIS can see you if you are
> transmitting.  Sometimes it nice to be able to see a buddy on AIS and hail
> them.
>
>
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Dave S via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> wrote:
>
> I sail out of Whitby, Near Toronto, North shore of lake ON.  North shore
> is Canada, south shore is USA, upstate NY.  For boaters on both sides, the
> 35nm crossing is a routine weekend cruise, probably been like this for 100
> years or more.
>
>
>
> A neighbour at my marina installed an AIS transmitter and now gets
> regularly stopped by the US coastguard when the US shore is approached, the
> AIS presumably identifying his CS36 as a foreign invader and potential
> threat to national security.
>
>
>
> I'll stay stealthy I think... ;-)
>
>
>
> Dave
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 15:00:44 +0000
> From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List AIS VHF
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> It looks like the HS-35 is the wireless handset for the RS-35?  It looks
> like a nice setup.
>
> Do you think that having the AIS transmit is that important?  What have
> mariners been doing for thousands of years?  Sometimes all this automation
> seems to make us let aware and more careless.  Auto-helms that drive
> straight into navaids.  Volvo Ocean racers that run across well marked
> reefs.  I foresee small boats getting run over by big boats because they
> thought the big boat would see their AIS.
>
> I read and article (IIRC - BoatUS) years ago about proposed legislation
> which would mandate any boat equipped with AIS to have it on and
> transmitting.  You know for our own safety.  I don't mind the ability to
> transmit my location but the proposition of a mandate is enough to keep me
> from buying.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
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