I rarely used the baby stay on my 34 – only when venturing out into the lake (Erie) with waves over 3-4 feet. However, like insurance, you only need it when you need it – and then you really need it. It should be fixed properly, whatever that entails.
From: G Collins via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: G Collins Subject: Re: Stus-List baby stay on 1982 34 I find the baby stay question an interesting one. We've got the adjustable babystay, but don't race, so usually it gets tensioned at the beginning of the season and then at some random time during the summer someone kicks the clutch, and eventually I discover that it isn't tensioned. Would it be worth a survey? I'm curious how many owners actually have and actively use the baby stay. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11On 2017-10-25 10:00 PM, Charles Nelson via CnC-List wrote: Before investing lots of time, effort and money in reattaching your baby stay to whatever, give some thought to a larger question----is it necessary on your boat? While I am not a naval architect and have not recently stayed in a Holiday Inn Express :>), unless your mast is 'bendy' and absolutely requires it you might be able to "...forgetaboutit ...", particularly if your spreaders are not swept aft. Many masts of your boat vintage were more like aluminum telephone poles which would never bend fore and aft, baby stay notwithstanding. My 1995 36 XL came with a baby stay and a relatively bendy mast. The spreaders are not swept at all. Given that I have NO plans to ever take her seriously off-shore and I sail/race in the protected waters of the NC sounds and the PITA the baby stay is in tacking upwind and removing it for flying the kite, my sailmaker recommend it's removal, which I did and have never looked back. Now if I planned to go offshore, I would put it back on board for the SOLE reason of preventing mast pumping fore and aft--that is one gravity storm I prefer to miss! Of course your use and the design of your boat might make its use mandatory but in my case, I am pretty sure it was added solely to stabilize mast pumping fore and aft. I avoid such pumping by sailing for pleasure in protected waters and have never missed it (but the attachment below and rod as well as the rolled up stay are kept on board anyway! FWIW Charlie Nelson 1995 C&C 36XL/kcb Water Phantom Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: My baby stay comes down to a pad eye on the top of the cabin and is then attached to a piece of rod rigging just in front of the head in the v-berth area. I don't have a track on mine. If there is any stainless bracket or welding, I can't see it. There is a lot of fiberglass covering it all. I can't even tell by the hole that's left if there really is a wood stringer in there. Im not sure how much glass I would need to cut away to get to where any bracket or plate may be. I suppose I could cut some of it away and have a new plate and stud welded together. Then lag bolt it to the stringer and cover with glass? Makes me a little nervous though to go cutting away like that while it's in the water. But I want to make sure it is strong enough whatever I do. Thanks, Kevin On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 6:42 PM Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Have you thought of using a padeye screwed to stringer, friction ring, and dyneema? Would be a lot cheaper (and lighter) and you could DIY it. Would serve same function just as well. Don't have time to get into it, but look around at what is possible since probably would be done this way today on a new boat. Cheaper, easier, better imo. (my babystay attachment also runs parallel to bulkhead, perp to water line in v berth. 2 cents On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:23 PM Dave Godwin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Chuck, et al, I don’t know if it is the same on your model but be careful about assuming that the track tie-down follows the angle of the baby-stay. At least that is my take-away from your description of it being “far in front of the keel” means. With the 37’, on the aft end of the baby-stay track there is a plate that the top of the tie-down (Navtec rod rigging…) is attached to. The rod descends directly down parallel to the interior bulkheads (perpendicular to the waterline) to the stud that was glassed into the central stringer. The load is not carried forward but rather resides at the rear of the traveler track. Years ago I delivered a 34’ from Ft. Lauderdale to Kingston, Jamaica. As I recall, it had the same setup that the 37’ does. Also, I’ll reiterate, the bolt does not go through the hull. Repairs to this can be easily be made while the boat is in the water. Hope this helps. Best, Dave Godwin 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Oct 25, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Fred, I checked the drawings for the 34 and see the baby stay is far in front of the keel. I suspect the bolt should be attached to a stringer also. http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1794 That's how it is on my 34R. On my boat they welded a stainless stud to a stainless bracket that is thru bolted to a stringer. A short piece of rod carries the load from the track down to the hull stringer. I suggest you pull up the floor around the hole and look in there? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, M _______________________________________________ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. 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