I haven't used mine since we bought it 3-4 years ago. But my wife and I are
thinking of selling and upgrading, so I'm concerned about resale value if I
don't get it fixed first.


Kevin Paxton
'82 34 #473
Japhys Spirit
Cornfield Creek, Magothy River, MD

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 6:44 AM Persuasion37 via CnC-List <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Ditto
>
> Mike
> PERSUASION
> C&C 37 K/CB
> Long Sault
>
> On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:21 PM, G Collins via CnC-List <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I find the baby stay question an interesting one.  We've got the
> adjustable babystay, but don't race, so usually it gets tensioned at the
> beginning of the season and then at some random time during the summer
> someone kicks the clutch, and eventually I discover that it isn't
> tensioned.
>
> Would it be worth a survey?  I'm curious how many owners actually have and
> actively use the baby stay.
>
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C&C 35-III #11
>
> On 2017-10-25 10:00 PM, Charles Nelson via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Before investing lots of time, effort and money in reattaching your baby
> stay to whatever, give some thought to a larger question----is it necessary
> on your boat? While I am not a naval architect and have not recently stayed
> in a Holiday Inn Express :>), unless your mast is 'bendy' and absolutely
> requires it you might be able to "...forgetaboutit ...", particularly if
> your spreaders are not swept aft. Many masts of your boat vintage were more
> like aluminum telephone poles which would never bend fore and aft, baby
> stay notwithstanding. My 1995 36 XL came with a baby stay and a relatively
> bendy mast. The spreaders are not swept at all. Given that I have NO plans
> to ever take her seriously off-shore and I sail/race in the protected
> waters of the NC sounds and the PITA the baby stay is in tacking upwind and
> removing it for flying the kite, my sailmaker recommend it's removal, which
> I did and have never looked back. Now if I planned to go offshore, I would
> put it back on board for the SOLE reason of preventing mast pumping fore
> and aft--that is one gravity storm I prefer to miss!
> Of course your use and the design of your boat might make its use
> mandatory but in my case, I am pretty sure it was added solely to stabilize
> mast pumping fore and aft. I avoid such pumping by sailing for pleasure in
> protected waters and  have never missed it (but the attachment below and
> rod as well as the rolled up stay are kept on board anyway!
>
> FWIW
>
> Charlie Nelson
> 1995 C&C 36XL/kcb
> Water Phantom
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 25, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> My baby stay comes down to a pad eye on the top of the cabin and is then
> attached to a piece of rod rigging just in front of the head in the v-berth
> area. I don't have a track on mine.
>
> If there is any stainless bracket or welding, I can't see it. There is a
> lot of fiberglass covering it all. I can't even tell by the hole that's
> left if there really is a wood  stringer in there. Im not sure how much
> glass I would need to cut away to get to where any bracket or plate may be.
>
> I suppose I could cut some of it away and have a new plate and stud welded
> together. Then lag bolt it to the stringer and cover with glass?
>
> Makes me a little nervous though to go cutting away like that while it's
> in the water. But I want to make sure it is strong enough whatever I do.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 6:42 PM Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Have you thought of using a padeye screwed to stringer, friction ring,
>> and dyneema? Would be a lot cheaper (and lighter) and you could DIY it.
>> Would serve same function just as well. Don't have time to get into it, but
>> look around at what is possible since probably would be done this way today
>> on a new boat. Cheaper, easier, better imo.
>>
>> (my babystay attachment also runs parallel to bulkhead, perp to water
>> line in v berth.
>>
>> 2 cents
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:23 PM Dave Godwin via CnC-List <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Chuck, et al,
>>>
>>> I don’t know if it is the same on your model but be careful about
>>> assuming that the track tie-down follows the angle of the baby-stay. At
>>> least that is my take-away from your description of it being “far in front
>>> of the keel” means.
>>>
>>> With  the 37’, on the aft end of the baby-stay track there is a plate
>>> that the top of the tie-down (Navtec rod rigging…) is attached to. The rod
>>> descends directly down parallel to the interior bulkheads (perpendicular to
>>> the waterline) to the stud that was glassed into the central stringer. The
>>> load is not carried forward but rather resides at the rear of the traveler
>>> track.
>>>
>>> Years ago I delivered a 34’ from Ft. Lauderdale to Kingston, Jamaica. As
>>> I recall, it had the same setup that the 37’ does.
>>>
>>> Also, I’ll reiterate, the bolt does not go through the hull. Repairs to
>>> this can be easily be made while the boat is in the water.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Dave Godwin
>>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
>>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
>>> Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>
>>>
>>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Fred,
>>>
>>>
>>> I checked the drawings for the 34 and see the baby stay is far in front
>>> of the keel.  I suspect the bolt should be attached to a stringer also.
>>> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1794
>>>
>>>
>>> That's how it is on my 34R.  On my boat they welded a stainless stud to
>>> a stainless bracket that is thru bolted to a stringer.   A short piece of
>>> rod carries the load from the track down to the hull stringer.
>>>
>>>
>>> I suggest you pull up the floor around the hole and look in there?
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>> Resolute
>>> 1990 C&C 34R
>>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, M
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