Ditto Mike PERSUASION C&C 37 K/CB Long Sault
> On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:21 PM, G Collins via CnC-List <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I find the baby stay question an interesting one. We've got the adjustable > babystay, but don't race, so usually it gets tensioned at the beginning of > the season and then at some random time during the summer someone kicks the > clutch, and eventually I discover that it isn't tensioned. > Would it be worth a survey? I'm curious how many owners actually have and > actively use the baby stay. > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 >> On 2017-10-25 10:00 PM, Charles Nelson via CnC-List wrote: >> Before investing lots of time, effort and money in reattaching your baby >> stay to whatever, give some thought to a larger question----is it necessary >> on your boat? While I am not a naval architect and have not recently stayed >> in a Holiday Inn Express :>), unless your mast is 'bendy' and absolutely >> requires it you might be able to "...forgetaboutit ...", particularly if >> your spreaders are not swept aft. Many masts of your boat vintage were more >> like aluminum telephone poles which would never bend fore and aft, baby stay >> notwithstanding. My 1995 36 XL came with a baby stay and a relatively bendy >> mast. The spreaders are not swept at all. Given that I have NO plans to ever >> take her seriously off-shore and I sail/race in the protected waters of the >> NC sounds and the PITA the baby stay is in tacking upwind and removing it >> for flying the kite, my sailmaker recommend it's removal, which I did and >> have never looked back. Now if I planned to go offshore, I would put it back >> on board for the SOLE reason of preventing mast pumping fore and aft--that >> is one gravity storm I prefer to miss! >> Of course your use and the design of your boat might make its use mandatory >> but in my case, I am pretty sure it was added solely to stabilize mast >> pumping fore and aft. I avoid such pumping by sailing for pleasure in >> protected waters and have never missed it (but the attachment below and rod >> as well as the rolled up stay are kept on board anyway! >> >> FWIW >> >> Charlie Nelson >> 1995 C&C 36XL/kcb >> Water Phantom >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 25, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> My baby stay comes down to a pad eye on the top of the cabin and is then >>> attached to a piece of rod rigging just in front of the head in the v-berth >>> area. I don't have a track on mine. >>> >>> If there is any stainless bracket or welding, I can't see it. There is a >>> lot of fiberglass covering it all. I can't even tell by the hole that's >>> left if there really is a wood stringer in there. Im not sure how much >>> glass I would need to cut away to get to where any bracket or plate may be. >>> >>> I suppose I could cut some of it away and have a new plate and stud welded >>> together. Then lag bolt it to the stringer and cover with glass? >>> >>> Makes me a little nervous though to go cutting away like that while it's in >>> the water. But I want to make sure it is strong enough whatever I do. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Kevin >>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 6:42 PM Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Have you thought of using a padeye screwed to stringer, friction ring, and >>>> dyneema? Would be a lot cheaper (and lighter) and you could DIY it. Would >>>> serve same function just as well. Don't have time to get into it, but look >>>> around at what is possible since probably would be done this way today on >>>> a new boat. Cheaper, easier, better imo. >>>> >>>> (my babystay attachment also runs parallel to bulkhead, perp to water line >>>> in v berth. >>>> >>>> 2 cents >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:23 PM Dave Godwin via CnC-List >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Chuck, et al, >>>>> >>>>> I don’t know if it is the same on your model but be careful about >>>>> assuming that the track tie-down follows the angle of the baby-stay. At >>>>> least that is my take-away from your description of it being “far in >>>>> front of the keel” means. >>>>> >>>>> With the 37’, on the aft end of the baby-stay track there is a plate >>>>> that the top of the tie-down (Navtec rod rigging…) is attached to. The >>>>> rod descends directly down parallel to the interior bulkheads >>>>> (perpendicular to the waterline) to the stud that was glassed into the >>>>> central stringer. The load is not carried forward but rather resides at >>>>> the rear of the traveler track. >>>>> >>>>> Years ago I delivered a 34’ from Ft. Lauderdale to Kingston, Jamaica. As >>>>> I recall, it had the same setup that the 37’ does. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I’ll reiterate, the bolt does not go through the hull. Repairs to >>>>> this can be easily be made while the boat is in the water. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Dave Godwin >>>>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin >>>>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay >>>>> Ronin’s Overdue Refit >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Fred, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I checked the drawings for the 34 and see the baby stay is far in front >>>>>> of the keel. I suspect the bolt should be attached to a stringer also. >>>>>> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1794 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That's how it is on my 34R. On my boat they welded a stainless stud to >>>>>> a stainless bracket that is thru bolted to a stringer. A short piece >>>>>> of rod carries the load from the track down to the hull stringer. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I suggest you pull up the floor around the hole and look in there? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> Resolute >>>>>> 1990 C&C 34R >>>>>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, M >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up >>>>>> again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending >>>>>> a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send >>>>>> contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>>>> >>>>>> All contributions are greatly appreciated! >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up >>>>> again. October will be our fund raising month. 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