That's fair.

The dampener has a few advantages besides alignment which I'd like to
retain.  I have painstakingly aligned the engine so I'm not particularly
concerned about alignment.

TBH it looks like the PO may have replaced the log and left it long.  I
don't know what stock looks like.  4.5 inches is way more than is needed to
fit 2 band clamps.  Why would it need to be that long?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 22:41 Bruno Lachance <bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Josh, what about loosing the dampener instead? I know you have it, but
> With a good alignment you shouldn't need it. I think I would prefer to keep
> the shaft log intact, it also keeps / brings the seal a bit forward. I'm
> wondering if it adds some sort of support to the shaft. Few years ago when
> I replaced the shaft, coupler, cutlass bearing and the packing gland by a
> dripless seal I found the engine needed to be more precisely aligned.
>
> Food for thoughts.
>
> Bruno Lachance
> Bécassine,33-2
> New-Richmond, Qc
>
> Envoyé de mon iPad
>
> Le 16 juin 2020 à 20:38, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> a écrit :
>
> Thanks Marek,
>
> I agree with almost all of your assessment.
>
> The shaft centering issue is not that it moves around or that I have
> intent to install it "off center" but rather that it could be exiting the
> log not perfectly on center.  Without some articulation of the seal it
> would require perfect alignment between the strut, the log, and the engine.
>
> As for the log having room for 2 bands, I have at least 4 inches of
> engagement - probably room for 10 to 15 bands or more!  And that is what I
> am considering reducing.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 10:23 Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am far from being an expert, but…
>>
>>
>>
>> - I don’t think there is any issues with having very little of the shaft
>> “free”. In my boat I have about 1/4” (free). The issue, in my mind, is not
>> how much is left free after the assembly, but rather, how you can assemble
>> all pieces together.
>>
>>
>>
>> - the shaft log has to be long enough that you can safely put the seal on
>> it and secure it with two clamps. You want that seal to be as secure as
>> possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> - there should not be any “flexing” (sideways) of the seal. The shaft
>> should go through the middle of shaft log and should not be moving around.
>>
>>
>>
>> I might be trivialising the problem, but..
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
>> 1994 C270 ”Legato”
>>
>> Ottawa, ON
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List *On Behalf Of *Josh Muckley via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* 16 June, 2020 09:01
>> *To:* C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Cc:* Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Shortening the shaft log by cutting
>>
>>
>>
>> I've asked a few of you personally so if this is a repeat then please
>> disregard.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm in the process of replacing/rebuilding the drive train on my C&C
>> 37+.  In the process I'm replacing the shaft, shaft coupling, shaft seal
>> and strut bearing.
>>
>>
>>
>> The old seal was a PSS seal and the old coupling was a standard solid
>> coupling.  I had had a R&D Marine (PYI) coupling dampener and planned to
>> reuse.  The new seal is a Last Drop II from Sailor Sam's.  The new coupling
>> is a split coupling from R&D Marine.  The new seal and coupling have added
>> length which ultimately leaves only about 1.5 inches of free shaft at most.
>>
>>
>>
>> So here comes the question.
>>
>>
>>
>> First:  Any concerns with only having 1.5 inches of free shaft?  I have
>> 3.
>>
>> - getting the coupling dampener installed requires the couplings to be
>> separated by not just the thickness of the dampener buy rather by the
>> thickness of the coupling bolts.
>>
>> - getting the split coupling on could be complicated
>>
>> - with the shaft seal bottomed out on the log there is less articulation
>> available in the seal tube.  The seal uses a delrin bearing to center
>> itself on the shaft but without room to flex the bearing will just ride
>> harder on the shaft and can even overheat.
>>
>>
>>
>> Second:
>>
>> The seal engages with the shaft log by at least 4 inches.  If I cut the
>> log shorter, then I could push the seal deeper onto the log and get a bit
>> more free shaft and room for the seal to articulate.  Can any of you see
>> any drawbacks or pitfalls to cutting the log short?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>>
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>
>> Solomons, MD
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