It does look very long. Maybe a fellow 37+ owner could help to compare. My 1987 
33-2 log was definitely shorter.

Like your videos.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine
33-2
New-Richmond,Qc

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Le 16 juin 2020 à 23:40, Josh Muckley 
<muckl...@gmail.com<mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>> a écrit :

That's fair.

The dampener has a few advantages besides alignment which I'd like to retain.  
I have painstakingly aligned the engine so I'm not particularly concerned about 
alignment.

TBH it looks like the PO may have replaced the log and left it long.  I don't 
know what stock looks like.  4.5 inches is way more than is needed to fit 2 
band clamps.  Why would it need to be that long?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 22:41 Bruno Lachance 
<bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com<mailto:bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Josh, what about loosing the dampener instead? I know you have it, but With a 
good alignment you shouldn't need it. I think I would prefer to keep the shaft 
log intact, it also keeps / brings the seal a bit forward. I'm wondering if it 
adds some sort of support to the shaft. Few years ago when I replaced the 
shaft, coupler, cutlass bearing and the packing gland by a dripless seal I 
found the engine needed to be more precisely aligned.

Food for thoughts.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine,33-2
New-Richmond, Qc

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Le 16 juin 2020 à 20:38, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

Thanks Marek,

I agree with almost all of your assessment.

The shaft centering issue is not that it moves around or that I have intent to 
install it "off center" but rather that it could be exiting the log not 
perfectly on center.  Without some articulation of the seal it would require 
perfect alignment between the strut, the log, and the engine.

As for the log having room for 2 bands, I have at least 4 inches of engagement 
- probably room for 10 to 15 bands or more!  And that is what I am considering 
reducing.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 10:23 Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Josh,

I am far from being an expert, but…

- I don’t think there is any issues with having very little of the shaft 
“free”. In my boat I have about 1/4” (free). The issue, in my mind, is not how 
much is left free after the assembly, but rather, how you can assemble all 
pieces together.

- the shaft log has to be long enough that you can safely put the seal on it 
and secure it with two clamps. You want that seal to be as secure as possible.

- there should not be any “flexing” (sideways) of the seal. The shaft should go 
through the middle of shaft log and should not be moving around.

I might be trivialising the problem, but..

Marek

1994 C270 ”Legato”
Ottawa, ON



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Subject: Stus-List Shortening the shaft log by cutting

I've asked a few of you personally so if this is a repeat then please disregard.

I'm in the process of replacing/rebuilding the drive train on my C&C 37+.  In 
the process I'm replacing the shaft, shaft coupling, shaft seal and strut 
bearing.

The old seal was a PSS seal and the old coupling was a standard solid coupling. 
 I had had a R&D Marine (PYI) coupling dampener and planned to reuse.  The new 
seal is a Last Drop II from Sailor Sam's.  The new coupling is a split coupling 
from R&D Marine.  The new seal and coupling have added length which ultimately 
leaves only about 1.5 inches of free shaft at most.

So here comes the question.

First:  Any concerns with only having 1.5 inches of free shaft?  I have 3.
- getting the coupling dampener installed requires the couplings to be 
separated by not just the thickness of the dampener buy rather by the thickness 
of the coupling bolts.
- getting the split coupling on could be complicated
- with the shaft seal bottomed out on the log there is less articulation 
available in the seal tube.  The seal uses a delrin bearing to center itself on 
the shaft but without room to flex the bearing will just ride harder on the 
shaft and can even overheat.

Second:
The seal engages with the shaft log by at least 4 inches.  If I cut the log 
shorter, then I could push the seal deeper onto the log and get a bit more free 
shaft and room for the seal to articulate.  Can any of you see any drawbacks or 
pitfalls to cutting the log short?


Thanks,

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
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