I don't think it is easy to stay in the US for more than 12 month either. But you only have to leave and go to another country for 15 days, then you can return and start the clock over again. I'm not sure what the similar rule is for Canada.
Ken H. On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 21:44, Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> wrote: > Andy - you might need to make a short trip to st Pierre and Miquelon. > > Eurozone VAT is similar I believe, non-paid boats need to leave briefly > and return to reset the clock (or pay) and paid boats can’t be gone too > long or they lose their paid status. > I think I see a retirement gig in the med in my future! > Dave > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:28 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Ken, > > Thank you all of this...everything one could want on the subject matter. > > Robert Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - #277 > Halifax, N.S. > > On 2022-01-15 4:59 p.m., Ken Heaton wrote: > > Further to this, it appears some of Henry's American clients had kept > their boats in Canada continuously for up to 18 years without ever actually > officially importing them, so never paid import duties: > https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/tariff-for-non-canadian-boat-owners-threatens-yard-1.1322571 > > In the long run, the rules were not changed, and this didn't seem to have > any lasting effect on Henry's business. The Cape Breton Boat Yard in > Baddeck, Nova Scotia is still in business. > > Ken H.. > > > > On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 16:53, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The "short amount of time" Andrew refers to is one full year (12 >> months). The ``newish" law Andrew referred to has been on the books for at >> least 20 years ( I think since the fall of 1998) but has been spottily >> enforced. In theory, US boats are not supposed to overwinter (stay longer >> than 12 months) in Canada without being legally imported and paying duty. >> But there’s an exception. If a boat needs repairs, it may stay—and the >> repairs, maintenance and storage of such yachts has been the core business >> of Henry Fuller of the Cape Breton Boat Yard in Baddeck, Nova Scotia. And >> though the necessary “repairs” may not have been very extensive, customs >> officers have never been very exacting about the matter. >> >> For many years quite a number of American boats spent years on end in >> Canada without being officially imported, using this loophole that allowed >> the boats to remain here if "major overhaul" and other large shipyard >> related jobs were being done to them. The intention of this rule was to >> allow shipyards to bid on large projects without having to worry about >> import duties if the job stretched out beyond 12 months. Legitimate large >> repairs can be extended beyond 12 months, up to as long as four years (48 >> months) if required, and permission for the extension(s) is granted. >> >> This loophole was being abused as many of these boats were really just >> having light seasonal maintenance done. Henry Fuller made a public issue >> of it back in the fall of 2013 and so drew the attention of the government >> agency tasked with enforcing the law, forcing their hand so enforcement >> increased as a result. >> >> Some coverage of Henry's complaints are here: >> https://www.oceannavigator.com/bad-news-from-baddeck/ >> >> Here is another view: >> https://contrarian.ca/2013/09/06/how-the-feds-are-killing-a-77-year-old-cape-breton-business/ >> >> Here is a link to the actual rules and information for travellers (note >> the wording on that page has not needed to been changed since 2014): >> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/menu-eng.html >> >> Information about the length of time permitted for repairs are here: >> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/importation-eng.html >> >> The actual letter of the law here: >> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-1-1-eng.html >> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-2-3-eng.html >> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d8/d8-1-1-eng.html >> >> Ken H. >> >> > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu > >
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