Andy - you might need to make a short trip to st Pierre and Miquelon. Eurozone VAT is similar I believe, non-paid boats need to leave briefly and return to reset the clock (or pay) and paid boats can’t be gone too long or they lose their paid status. I think I see a retirement gig in the med in my future! Dave Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:28 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Ken, > > Thank you all of this...everything one could want on the subject matter. > > Robert Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - #277 > Halifax, N.S. > > On 2022-01-15 4:59 p.m., Ken Heaton wrote: >> Further to this, it appears some of Henry's American clients had kept their >> boats in Canada continuously for up to 18 years without ever actually >> officially importing them, so never paid import duties: >> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/tariff-for-non-canadian-boat-owners-threatens-yard-1.1322571 >> >> In the long run, the rules were not changed, and this didn't seem to have >> any lasting effect on Henry's business. The Cape Breton Boat Yard in >> Baddeck, Nova Scotia is still in business. >> >> Ken H.. >> >> >> >> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 16:53, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> The "short amount of time" Andrew refers to is one full year (12 months). >>> The ``newish" law Andrew referred to has been on the books for at least 20 >>> years ( I think since the fall of 1998) but has been spottily enforced. In >>> theory, US boats are not supposed to overwinter (stay longer than 12 >>> months) in Canada without being legally imported and paying duty. But >>> there’s an exception. If a boat needs repairs, it may stay—and the repairs, >>> maintenance and storage of such yachts has been the core business of Henry >>> Fuller of the Cape Breton Boat Yard in Baddeck, Nova Scotia. And though the >>> necessary “repairs” may not have been very extensive, customs officers have >>> never been very exacting about the matter. >>> >>> For many years quite a number of American boats spent years on end in >>> Canada without being officially imported, using this loophole that allowed >>> the boats to remain here if "major overhaul" and other large shipyard >>> related jobs were being done to them. The intention of this rule was to >>> allow shipyards to bid on large projects without having to worry about >>> import duties if the job stretched out beyond 12 months. Legitimate large >>> repairs can be extended beyond 12 months, up to as long as four years (48 >>> months) if required, and permission for the extension(s) is granted. >>> >>> This loophole was being abused as many of these boats were really just >>> having light seasonal maintenance done. Henry Fuller made a public issue >>> of it back in the fall of 2013 and so drew the attention of the government >>> agency tasked with enforcing the law, forcing their hand so enforcement >>> increased as a result. >>> >>> Some coverage of Henry's complaints are here: >>> https://www.oceannavigator.com/bad-news-from-baddeck/ >>> >>> Here is another view: >>> https://contrarian.ca/2013/09/06/how-the-feds-are-killing-a-77-year-old-cape-breton-business/ >>> >>> Here is a link to the actual rules and information for travellers (note the >>> wording on that page has not needed to been changed since 2014): >>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/menu-eng.html >>> >>> Information about the length of time permitted for repairs are here: >>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/importation-eng.html >>> >>> The actual letter of the law here: >>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-1-1-eng.html >>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-2-3-eng.html >>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d8/d8-1-1-eng.html >>> >>> Ken H. >>> > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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