Same.   Have had a voyage to St Pierre and Miquelon on the bucket list
since I was a kid, thanks to Farley Mowat. I  reread that book last summer,
and enjoyed it just as much as I did back in the 70s, and probably laughed
even more.

Dave



On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 21:19, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> On side note. I grew up sailing on my dad’s C&C 27 in British Columbia. On
> one cruise, I read a book by Canadian author Farley Mowat called The Boat
> Who Wouldn’t Float, about a pair of fellows buying and converting a small
> fishing schooner in Newfoundland.
> Mowat talks a lot about the area and I’ve wanted to cruise there since. My
> club has a cruise in Nfld this summer but my wife thinks we should attend
> our daughter’s wedding instead of joining them.
> I highly recommend the book for any sailor with a sense of humour: “Black
> coffee made with rum as a substitute for water is a drink of considerable
> authority.”
>
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA    02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Jan 15, 2022, at 21:06, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> I don't think it is easy to stay in the US for more than 12 month either.
> But you only have to leave and go to another country for 15 days, then you
> can return and start the clock over again.  I'm not sure what the similar
> rule is for Canada.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 21:44, Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Andy - you might need to make a short trip to st Pierre and Miquelon.
>>
>> Eurozone VAT is similar I believe, non-paid boats need to leave briefly
>> and return to reset the clock (or pay) and paid boats can’t be gone too
>> long or they lose their paid status.
>>   I think I see a retirement gig in the med in my future!
>> Dave
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:28 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Ken,
>>
>> Thank you all of this...everything one could want on the subject matter.
>>
>> Robert Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - #277
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>> On 2022-01-15 4:59 p.m., Ken Heaton wrote:
>>
>> Further to this, it appears some of Henry's American clients had kept
>> their boats in Canada continuously for up to 18 years without ever actually
>> officially importing them, so never paid import duties:
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/tariff-for-non-canadian-boat-owners-threatens-yard-1.1322571
>>
>> In the long run, the rules were not changed, and this didn't seem to have
>> any lasting effect on Henry's business.  The Cape Breton Boat Yard in
>> Baddeck, Nova Scotia is still in business.
>>
>> Ken H..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 16:53, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The "short amount of time" Andrew refers to is one full year (12
>>> months).  The ``newish" law Andrew referred to has been on the books for at
>>> least 20 years ( I think since the fall of 1998) but has been spottily
>>> enforced. In theory, US boats are not supposed to overwinter (stay longer
>>> than 12 months) in Canada without being legally imported and paying duty.
>>> But there’s an exception. If a boat needs repairs, it may stay—and the
>>> repairs, maintenance and storage of such yachts has been the core business
>>> of Henry Fuller of the Cape Breton Boat Yard in Baddeck, Nova Scotia. And
>>> though the necessary “repairs” may not have been very extensive, customs
>>> officers have never been very exacting about the matter.
>>>
>>> For many years quite a number of American boats spent years on end in
>>> Canada without being officially imported, using this loophole that allowed
>>> the boats to remain here if "major overhaul" and other large shipyard
>>> related jobs were being done to them.  The intention of this rule was to
>>> allow shipyards to bid on large projects without having to worry about
>>> import duties if the job stretched out beyond 12 months. Legitimate large
>>> repairs can be extended beyond 12 months, up to as long as four years (48
>>> months) if required, and permission for the extension(s) is granted.
>>>
>>> This loophole was being abused as many of these boats were really just
>>> having light seasonal maintenance done.  Henry Fuller made a public issue
>>> of it back in the fall of 2013 and so drew the attention of the government
>>> agency tasked with enforcing the law, forcing their hand so enforcement
>>> increased as a result.
>>>
>>> Some coverage of Henry's complaints are here:
>>> https://www.oceannavigator.com/bad-news-from-baddeck/
>>>
>>> Here is another view:
>>> https://contrarian.ca/2013/09/06/how-the-feds-are-killing-a-77-year-old-cape-breton-business/
>>>
>>> Here is a link to the actual rules and information for travellers (note
>>> the wording on that page has not needed to been changed since 2014):
>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/menu-eng.html
>>>
>>> Information about the length of time permitted for repairs are here:
>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/importation-eng.html
>>>
>>> The actual letter of the law here:
>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-1-1-eng.html
>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-2-3-eng.html
>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d8/d8-1-1-eng.html
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>>
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