sorry, i really misinterpreted your last email. Seems i was wrong
(big apologize!) this was really not meant against you.
Let me explain what i have in mind:
>In the OpenSources the things goes a diferent way. This is not a >company where are people getting money to support you. Then the
>less you can do is thanks people that use his time to help you.
>How you will fell if >somebody stop you at the street and start
>attacking you just because you dont >know where is the street
>called "X"? This is ridiculous, right? I think some people here
>had the same feel.
You are right in all points. i agree.
But i did not understand robert's criticism in this direction.
I understand, he attacks some severe critical points, which
should be taken into concern (hope this is correct english...)
I did not hear, "the cocooners shall do it", i heard
"this is may be a severe problem", which is a completely different
message so far ...
From my point of view: cocoon can only proove it's long turn
significance, if it is introduced into "business", where business
does not necessarily mean "commercial business". It means
to prove cocoon to be
* customisable
* developer friendly (not userfriendly!)
* stable
* performant
* scalable
* well documented
* downward (upward?) compatible
* ...
and much much more...
This proof is partially performed from all of those who use
cocoon in their "business" (including me ;-). But this proof
is not in first place a task of the cocoon comunity, but
it may be a task of a possibly commercial group, which takes
care on these things and stays in constant discussion with the
core development of cocoon. Yes and everyone, who wants to get
this cocoon++ should have to pay for it in some way, or has to
enhance it on his/her own ;-)
For me currently the most significant problem is, that cocoon is
moving too fast to get a grasp on it and start quality assurance
issues. Maybe this is what the cocoon comunity really have to
take care about: "Getting the system into a state, where it can
be quality assured..."
And this is where a must agree with Robert ...
You see: I am with cocoon, i love it, but i also see the big big
potential "success leaks" ;-)
regards, hussayn
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Yes I know this point, but for this reason you cannot just come here and after 12 hours, start attacking something you dont know. This is the worng way. In place you can ask in another way.Maybe we should calm down a bit and take this thread really serious. It contains much of material to think about. And in many senses the criticism here can't be discussed away.I never got angry. I agree. Antonio Gallardo. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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