Hi Ronald Maybe your number is correct, whether it is 6.3M or 7M,This is a shocking number for everyone especially in 201x such a large block allocated. This is not in 199x year.
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 4:25 AM Ronald F. Guilmette <[email protected]> wrote: > In message < > calm9cbn+r9oen9+9ybjfbk5ggtcmemz1yhxgdfw04otc3mx...@mail.gmail.com> > Meriem Dayday <[email protected]> wrote: > > >This is a direct violation of the CoC. > > No, actually, it isn't. > > The information about how Cloud Innovation is presently making use of > it's assigned 6,291,456 AFRINIC-administered IPv4 addresses is effectively > public information, and it is not difficult to derive from any number of > public sources (e.g. RIPEStat, bgp.he.net, etc.) > > If you lived in the time of Galileo Galilei, would you consider it an > affront to public decency if some people elected to look through the > telescope and then just describe what they saw? And if so, then what > is next? Book burning? > > >Disclosing such information and data without the company's consent is a > >clear attempt of defamation and can have legal consequences on the > >concerned person. > > OK, let's parse that statement, because it conjoins two different obvious > logical problems. > > First, the Internet is *not* a private network. Fact's about what various > companies are doing on the Internet are possible to see, and to learn, > without needing the consent of the companies inolved. That is the nature > of the Internet. If you want to run your own closed private intranet, > then go head. Nobody will stop you and you can then keep every last > detail of your corporate operations utterly secret. But the minute any > company obtains Internet number resources and starts using those, it > *voluntarily* gives up some of its corporate secrecy in exchange for being > a part of, and a participant on this great communications experiment we > call the Internet. > > I personally am not now, and never have been a customer of Cloud > Innovation. > And yet even well before today I already determined for myself that well > more that 90% of Cloud Innovation's assigned AFRINIC-administered IPv4 > address space was being deployed to other continents. This is not a state > secret by any means, and the information may be derived from 100% public > sources. Anyone clever enough to seek it out will find the same > information. > > Whether the manner in which Cloud Innovation is using/deploying its > assigned number resources does or does not comport with its specific > RSA and/or with community approved regulations is a separate question, > and one which I myself do not have an answer to. In any case, the > courts will sort out those questions in due course, I imagine. But the > mere facts of how Cloud Innovation has deployed its AFRINIC-assigned > resources, or how it would appear to make money, based on the available > public evidence, are *not* corporate secrets. Any attempt to portray > them as such is just an attempt at heavy-handed censorship. > > The second logical problem with the statement above is contained in the > part that says "... attempt of defamation and can have legal consequences > on the concerned person." > > Exactly so! If the guy who posted the material you are reacting to was > willing to take the legal risk to post that material, IN SPITE OF the > possibility that he could, at least in theory, be sued for defamation, > then why are YOU worried about it? Why should AFRINIC be worried about > it? Obviously, this (theoretical) possibility of a defemation lawsuit > is only a problem for the guy who posted the (allegedly) defamatory > text, and he obviiously was willing to take the risk in order to express > his opinion, SO WHAT IS THAT TO YOU? > > Here again, shouting down in the original poster in this manner appears > to me to be just another a heavy-handed attempt at pointless censorship. > > I hope that we here can all have open and frank discusions of all of the > issues now of concern to AFRINIC without these kinds of attempts to > muzzle dissenting viewpoints based on perfectly silly arguments. > > > Regards, > rfg > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >
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