Hi Sylvain,

11.4 literally says policy not DPP.

Also ready 11.5, otherwise you are taking it out of context.

 

 

 

Dear AfriNIC's Community, 

 

Please see my comments below, inline...

Le dimanche 1 août 2021, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss 
<[email protected]> a écrit :

Hi Noah,

 

Hi Jordi,

Thanks for your email, brother.

 

 

Your interpretation on this is wrong.

 

 

...imho! it's not so clear who is wrong, though :-/

 

 

Read my detailed email a few days ago.

 

11.4 Allows the Board to define any policy regarding Internet Resources that 
they believe is urgently needed.

 

 

...no! it allows the BoD to *submit* a DPP 

(not to *ratify*), under critical circonstances. 

 

It makes a huge difference, for me :-/

 

...yes! now, the BoD has also the right to act, 

promptly in case of crisis. The BoD becomes 

more accountable, with such additional freedom.

The BoD is allowed to varying the process in 

time of crisis. They had two alternatives...they 

did it, imho.

 

It's also worth noting that PDP prevail for Policy 

Development. 

 

 

This can be implemented ASAP the Board decides. The Board MUST also send the 
policy (11.5), as a policy proposal (because is the only way the PDWG works to 
reach consensus),

 

 

...brother, it can not be a policy, but a DPP. Right?

 

 

 

 to the PDWG for endorsement in the next meeting. If the PPM doesn’t endorse 
it, then the Policy will decay, but whatever happened meanwhile, will be 
“legal” in terms of the PDP.

 

 

...it remains a DPP submitted by the BoD.

If adopted by the PDWG, it has to be ratified 

by the BoD, then implemented by the Staff 

as a new policy and finally added to the CPM.

 

 

Now the question here is:

 

 

Right now, i don't see the need for an Inter RIR 

transfer policy...too risky! as an IPv4 cost $30; 

according to nra.help :'-( adding that it's now a 

*"valuable asset" owned by resource holders*.

 

...things have changed since RFG shared the 

results of his valuable researchs.

 

Since then, it appears that AfriNIC has recovered 

a number of IPv4 blocks...part of the IPv4 which  have been, sadly, 
misappropriated are still on the 

pipe...and also, it's possible to add a maximum 

of two /11 and two /12 to the available IPv4 

regional pool soon...

 

...right now, the problem to solve seems to be: 

 

~°~

How to protect the INRs assigned to AfriNIC 

to support the growth of its service region?

 ~°~

 

Shalom,

--sb.

 

1.       From past experience in the other RIRs, implementing such Inter-RIR 
policy, takes a minimum of 6 months, probably even more (it took 12 months in 
other RIRs), because there is a need to coordinate all the RIR systems. AFRINIC 
can’t “force” other RIRs to change their own agendas and workflows to address 
all the changes “faster”. AFRINIC could be lucky and because all the other 4 
RIRs already passed by this several times, may be the process is so much 
“adjusted” and fine tunned that it may be faster.

2.       I already suggested many times the Board to do that, when I saw that 
the consensus was not achievable. They ignored that. So I don’t think they want 
to pass this now, more when there are several proposals in discussion and could 
be discussed in a PPM in a couple of months from now, the AC reconstituted, and 
the appeals resolved, etc.

3.       The Board can meanwhile, take measures so the implementation of a 
possible “system” for an Inter-RIR proposal is advanced, in hope that one way 
or the other a proposal reach consensus.

4.       All that said, I expect that if the Board decides to draft that 
proposal/policy, they make sure that there is a clear statement that ensures 
that before any transfer, there is a confirmation of the resources being 
transferred are following the existing conditions in the RSA, CPM, etc., 
otherwise.

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

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