On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 14:49, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > okey, this ticked my bogometer. > > Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > > My comments cannot be misinterpreted. > > an interesting position. :-) > > > My observations relate strictly to the behaviour of the board > > in their relationship with Sam. > > indeed: your observations. subjective opinion, in other words, > not the one true reality. > > > I'm definitely trying to draw out into the open how things work. > > so far you're not doing a very good job, because you seem to > be hitting very wide of the mark. to put it rather more > bluntly, jason, don't try to tell *me* how i'm affected by > something; it's not your place, nor are you competent to do > so. (no-one is except myself.)
I'm not picking lint out of belly button and weaving a story here. I take what I see on the board list and I did speak with on the phone for about 40 minutes so I have, even if limited, some idea of how you're affected. I'm not saying that it's a conspiracy I'm just pointing out that as busy as everyone is on the board it is not hard to imagine that there is a reliance on Sam for information. I'm not saying none of you don't think for yourselves on Java issues but that Sam's opinion carries a lot of weight and might possibly be taken as the sole source of information. I have no problem saying I'm wrong and now that board has given it's decision it's clear that I am. > saying that it 'appears to you' > that something is affecting me a certain way, however, is > perfectly acceptable. please sprinkle a few more 'imho's > through your posts, because otherwise the wording doesn't > seem to even imply them. Fair enough. I have very few lessons in diplomacy. I can learn, eventually with a big enough stick. > as for the board taking sam as the sole source of input about > things regarding jakarta: i'm sure a little reflection on > your part will reveal that as hyperbole. if it were true, > none of the other board members would be subscribed to and > participating on all the jakarta mailing lists that we are. IMHO, I would say that it is not hard to imagine the board not being heavily influenced by Sam's opinion. That being said things turned out differently than I expected and I will make an attempt to tone down my direct line of attack approach to things. -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tambora.zenplex.org In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it. -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
