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Niclas Hedhman wrote:

> On Tuesday 21 December 2004 07:54, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>
>> Actually, all it takes to veto a change is one PMC member to cast a -1 with
>> a technical justification.  The issue is how a community deals with those
>> vetos, and how progress can be made by resolving them.
> 
> So, please bring to the table a particular case, since I fail to recall any 
> such veto being ignored and/or not worked on to be resolved, other than the 
> mentioned Leo Simons' (was he even PMC at the time? still not ignored.) one, 
> which got caught up in a larger mess.

Out of simple curiousity, what would this accomplish?  I am not being
flip.  It seems clear that there are aspects on which all the players
are unlikely to ever agree, so this would seem likely to prolong the
vocal non-agreement.  The Avalon project has been shut down; parts
have moved outside the ASF and are under active development there.
What is there that requires that this become the Thread That Wouldn't
Die, and why?

If there's a reasonable reason, cool.  Otherwise, maybe we can move
on.  There'll be no 'winner' here.
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Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini  http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist      http://Apache-Server.Com/

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