> -----Original Message----- > From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 21 December 2004 21:55 > To: community@apache.org > Subject: Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Stephen McConnell wrote: > > > > Clearly you are not prepared to face up to the fact that the there is a > > disconnect within the ASF policies and procedures and the functioning of > > an open community. Clearly you are not prepared, willing or able to > > address this. You decision to abstain from further discussion within > > this context is an appropriate move and I commend and applaud this > > decision. > > Last message on this: None of the above is clear. You are guilty out > of your own mouth/keyboard of ascribing to others -- in this case me -- > the motivations you want to believe they have. Your paragraph above > demonstrates yet again that you will twist anything you can to support > your position. > > By refraining from trying to deal with you further I am in no way > suggesting that I believe you to be correct. Disengaging from a debate > does not equate to giving up and accepting the other side's argument. > > And to specifically and explicitly give the lie to your assertions above, > Stephen, I will gladly discuss any of the named issues with anyone capable > of doing so reasonably. I just no longer consider that to include you. I > am not 'abstaining from further discussion' on them -- I am abstaining > from > attempting to discuss them with *you*. So go ahead and find someone else > who supports your position, and can participate in reasonable discussion, > and get that person to engage me on those topics right here on this list. > Go ahead and feed that person lines behind the scenes if you like, to make > sure that you feel you're being represented. But don't bother trying to > represent yourself any more, at least not to me -- you have reduced your > own credibility to less than zero in my opinion through your choice of > tactics.
Sooner of later you have to make a choice. Are you a part of the pile or are your going to do something about the pile. It appears that you have made that decision. Stephen. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]