On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:25:54 +0100 (CET) "Pander" <pan...@users.sourceforge.net> babbled:
don't know - i dont work on gta03, but i do know in japan there is ONLY 3g+ - no 2g. :) (well pre 3g there were proprietary packet-based networks in japan). > How is UMTS support on GTA03 (read support in Japan)? > > On Thu, December 18, 2008 10:02, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:46:54 +0100 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" > > <h...@computer.org> babbled: > > > >> > >> Am 18.12.2008 um 00:12 schrieb Will Siddall: > >> > >> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Justyn Butler > >> > <justynbutler+openm...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Replace the mc75i with a 3.5G modem! Go on, surprise us all! > >> > >> We perhaps will be most surprised how much a 3G modem will cost... > > > > a 3g modem/module/chipset is REALLY expensive. especially if you have low > > volume (that means less than a few hundred thousand units). you pay a > > small > > fortune in royalties too. > > > >> >> I have to agree with Justyn and say that we need a 3G phone. I > >> >> bought > >> > this phone in hopes that I can use it when I travel around. > >> > Unfortunately, when I leave the country, it just becomes a toy to play > >> > around with and most of the time I have to leave it behind :( > >> > >> Why that? > >> > >> I don't own a 3G phone but a UMTS wireless card for my Mac. > >> > >> My practical experience is: > >> > >> a) in areas (urban) where you have HSDPA speed, you also have WiFi > >> hotspots > >> > >> b) in all other areas (more rural) your connection falls back to GPRS > >> anyway > >> > >> So, a phone that combines GPRS and WiFi is a little more difficult to > >> connect > >> to the correct network but has no dramatically worse connectivity than > >> real 3G. > >> > >> 2 months ago I had to run a VNC connection to my server back home > >> through GPRS. > >> Slowly, but it worked. > >> > >> Improving to 3G is therefore a "nice to have" for me. Not mandatory. > > > > here is where i'd disagree. i can walk down my street in sydney - 100% of > > wifi > > spots are locked (wep/wpa etc.) - no one opens them. yopur choice is > > "spotty" > > wifi hotspots you have to pay for. the other option is 3g (umts/hsdpa > > etc.) > > which has pretty good coverage most areas in urban settings - even > > outside. i > > think there seems to be some assumption that wifi is so widespread in > > urban > > areas (and it comes at a cost equal to or cheaper than 3g datarates). this > > is > > not the case in australia. not to mention the datarates for 3g are MUCH > > less > > than 2g - they give you a discount for 3g data, but for 2g, it's rap you > > silly > > per kilobyte. why? the phone network's 2g data setup was NOT designed for > > heavy > > data usage - it's being abused for data and that impacts call quality and > > the > > providers will appropriately price the service based on the network > > ability to > > provide. so 3g is reasonable. for 2g i will never pay for it as its > > outragoeus. > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community