>Given that American history is fairly recent, what value is there in  
>going back 1000's of years 

Wow, jingoism in the extreme. History started some 200 years ago and 
nothing else counts. All I can do is sputter in disbelief.

>Why do you appear to  
>assume that only government can serve as an organizing force?

I never said only. It is one of many, and a very effective one. Why do 
you see government as a bogeyman? I have seen the government and it is 
us. Not scary at all.

>No, I am not.  The world is brutal, and parts of it quite savage.   
>Free people can choose to be other than brutal and savage through  
>voluntary cooperation of communities of interest outside of  
>government's coercive powers.

No police, no fire department, no military, no food inspectors, etc. etc. 
Looks brutal and savage to me. 

Government is "voluntary cooperation." You are free to move to any other 
locality with a government that you prefer. I already mentioned Somalia 
and Zimbabwe as possibilities.


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