On Monday 17 November 2003 02:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I guess you have mdkkdm. Use Mandrake Control Center->Hardware->Login
> Manager (or similar) to change this. (This is a change from 9.0->9.1)

Nope. Look, Buchan, even you didn't remember it right; what to speak about us 
mortals...  For some unknown reason the way how to do this is Mandrake 
Control Center -> System -> Choose the Display Manager.  Why this Login 
Window is called Display Manager there, is beyond my understanding. I for 
sure wouldn't find it myself in a lifetime but somebody told me on some list 
(don't remember, maybe even here on Cooker). This is _so_ confusing, 
specially because everything other related to this login window is specified 
on KDE Control Center -> System -> Login Manager.  The Mighty Ones at 
Mandrake could IMHO at least put the same name in MCC, to make it a bit more 
understandable:  Mandrake Control Center -> System -> Choose Login Manager. 
Certainly putting some more understandable icon for it could help as well, 
instead of quite cryptic traffic lights (!) like now.

> I can't make out what the user is doing here.
> kcontrol->Administration->Login Mangager? I am sure this works.

Changing type of kdm now in 9.2 leads to following actions: if user confirms 
he allows to re-start kdm, current KDE session is abruptly terminated 
(without any warning to save your job etc.), X are terminated as well and 
user finds himself in black textmode fullscreen with login prompt. Certainly 
many of new users do not even know they can start graphic GUI again with 
startx, and are scared up to point of re-installing or something.  Yeah, 
maybe somebody should at least make red light glowing brightly on traffic 
light icon leading to change of kdm... :-)

> It seems the user has some X configuration issue. 

Nope. This seems to me being principal issue of how new things are introduced 
in MDK nowadays: somebody likes new thing better and wishfully thinks that  
everybody will.  It gets never (or too less) tested how the user might get 
back the _old_ feature, and the procedure itself is often cryptic or even 
non-existant (like you can not avoid installing of bootsplash anymore).  
Nevertheless most people are quite conservative and for some reason want back 
things like they are used to. I for example wanted back correct hostname 
displayed on Login Screen, _and_ the clock ticking there ;-)  

Harry


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