On Monday 17 November 2003 14:21, Buchan Milne wrote: > > Nope. Look, Buchan, even you didn't remember it right; > Actually I do, that is the way it is on 9.1 ;-).
Even more confusing, isn't it? :) > > Control Center -> System -> Choose the Display Manager. Why this Login > > Window is called Display Manager there, is beyond my understanding. > > Technically, that is the correct term. KDE's terminology is wrong (and > why do they call it kdm and not klm?). One more principal thing is that distribution ought to be made for users, not to fight terminology or other semi-religious disputes. Who cares what is right theoretically or by historic reasons? User needs something understandable. This small window asking for username and password is named Login Window in almost every kind of system (and earlier on the text screen it used to be Login Screen). That's what it does: allows (or not) to Login. (Or Logon, depending on religion again ;-) What's wrong with calling window by it's functionality? Call simple things in simple way. KISS, it's old good working principle. > > on KDE Control Center -> System -> Login Manager. > Well, you need to choose which display manager you use (in MCC), and > after that you use the tools for the display manager to configure it. I understand this, but have you noticed that one and the same thing is named differently in both these places? > IMHO KDE is wrong, Mandrake is using the correct term. MDK should care more to put _understandable_ term. > Well, actually they should restart the dm service. Something broke in 9.2. Please register this at Anthill. I wouldn't be able to describe it in correct terms:) > > maybe somebody should at least make red light glowing brightly on traffic > > light icon leading to change of kdm... :-) > ??? In MCC -> System, the icon near "Choose the display manager" is traffic light device with red, yellow and green lights all off. What have traffic lights in common with choosing type of login window, is again beyond my understanding, but if red light would be shining bright _on_ it could make somebody feel there is danger to go further ;-) Much better would be, of course, to draw small login box there so to give some notion what it is really all about. > Since kdm is the default (at least on new installs, and AFAIK), you > should by default be able to get your hostname and clock back. Well... I am able now. I am learning somehow. Just the way as it happens sometimes is IMHO way too cruel for normal user coming from Windows world. Personally I will survive (I survived even JCL on IBM/360 and binary coding without any assembler when I was young :) > So, I think your analysis isn't totally correct. I don't even pretend it is. Just personal impressions. Thanks for reading them :-) I have all the time this strange feeling that Mandrake could do even much better with such a minimum of CRM efforts... Hope it will happen soon ;-) Harry
