On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:25 AM, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote:
> Speaking to my own experience, I have never gotten involved in IRC because I
> don't want to have pay for a reflector to know who mentioned me, I don't
> want to maintain a server just to have a reflector for free, and I don't
> want or have a PC to leave on 24/7 to simply stay connected.
>

Me too.

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>
> The last time I looked into this idea the conclusion I reached was Zulip or
> Discourse. I do worry about the accessibility of IRC for new people, but I
> also have the same worry about email as more of people's personal
> communication move away from it and thus people just aren't set up handle
> any sort of volume of email.
>
> Consider the fact that a standard answer to a lack of email threading on any
> of the major email providers is to use gmane's NNTP gateway. I don't think
> people realize that anyone who post-dates the '90s has no clue what that
> acronym represents and thus poses the same barriers as setting up IRC. And
> then asking folks to install a desktop app like Thunderbird just for their
> open source email is also an odd request to be making when there are
> web-based options.
>

Many young people have gmail accounts.
So I don't think email is more problem than IRC for now.

> So for me, the first question is are we just considering alternatives to the
> "IRC problem" or are we trying to solve the "new contributors who were born
> in the 2000s problem" (for which the latter subsumes the former)?

I feel later is important.

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