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Hello! My name is Danny. I've been reading ya'lls
descusion on the New Coupe, decided to put in my two
cents. I'll try to make a long story short. I was
introduced to flying when was 40 years old. I came
across an ultralight (another story altogether), took
lessons, flew low and slow, life was great. For the
next few years I didn' go fishing (I grew up on the
bayous of south Louisiana), Didn't play golf, just
forgot about anything else I'd ever enjoyed doing. My
weekends and free time were at fly-ins, air shows, air
museums. Flying, anything to do with flying. I ended
up getting my Private Pilots Cert., joined a Flying
club, flew 150's, a few hours in a Citabria, 172's,
and anything else I could climb into. All the while, I
saved my money. At a fly-in in Oakdale, La.(I'm going
back a few years) I had seen this little plane. It was
the neatest thing. Low wing, tri gear, TWIN RUDDERS, a
convertable, Man what the hell is that? I asked my
friend, An Ercoupe! Whats an ercoupe? He didn't really
know, but he knew it was an ercoupe. I told him that
day, Man this is what I want. From that day on, I'd
notice these little planes at different fly-ins and
whatnot. I read up on them, checked out the net, I
became so impressed by this little plane. What sports
cars are to automobiles, they are to airplanes.
Needless to say, on Jan.22, this year I purchased a
1946 415-C. Its polished alum. trimed in red, white,
blue. the rag wings are painted red and white with
blue stars, tail feathers match, with polished
rudders. If I could figure out how to send pictures
over this thing, I'd send them. Its got a cont.75, has
rudder peddels, Man I'm having a ball, this thing is a
true classic. The more I fly it the more I love it. I
admit, I don't realy fly long distances. We don't
really have any mountains in Louisiana, 100+- mph is
about as fast as I care to go anymore, and its a
convertable. Man if I don't ever get to fly in any
other type of airplane again in my life, I think I'll
die a happy man. Sorry my two cents turned into about
a buck and a half, but whats this about a "New Coupe"
Is there really such an animal? How do you improve the
perfect two place flying machine, without turning it
into something else entirely? There's plenty of room
for customizeing, and personalization, but change the
ERCOUPE? Old Fred's turning over in his grave.
Danny N94306 P.S. Thanks for all
the vauable info. I've gotten off this site.
--- Bill Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Hi:
> Just my two cents but has no one considered the
> Rotax 912 line of
> engines. 80 to 115 hp and a lot less weight. Between
> 130 to 140 lbs
> ready to go. I've been flying behind one for 700 to
> 800 hrs with not a
> hiccup.
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Wilkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 1:08 AM
> To: Hartmut; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] A new Coupe
>
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> What did I miss here? I thought this was a "NEW"
> Coupe. Composits etc.
> I wouldn't think a new state of the art Coupe would
> still only fly at
> 110 mph. I'm thinking more in the 140-150 range. I
> would guess a 125
> would burn around 8 gph, so with 30 gal. fuel, range
> of 500 miles with
> 30 minute reserve.
>
> Larry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] A new Coupe
>
> All.
>
> While it is very favorable to have some extra power
> at altitude I guess
> a regular 125-150 hp continental/lycoming gas
> powered engine will not
> cut it.
> First, these engine will weight more, so does the
> extra amount of fuel
> you'll need to run them.
> In the case described below the desired flying
> distance is 2 X 250 miles
> (no wind condition). Since you can't fly much faster
> than 110 - 120 with
> the Ercoupe airframe you'll need fuel for around 5
> hours. That is 50
> Gallons of fuel for an 10GPH engine. Twice the fuel
> we have now
> available.
> With the extra amount of fuel and the extra engine
> weight your usable
> weight would shrink that much that your wife would
> have to stay home
> again.
> The only solution would be to construct a different
> airframe, but that
> is probably not a Coupe then, or allow a stall speed
> of around 80 mph
> for your high power NEWcoupe.
>
> So what's to do?
> Very simple. Not always does bigger equal more. In
> aviation you'll have
> to pay a price for bigger.
> A staedy, reliable horse power of around 70-90hp is
> very sufficiant for
> our little planes.
> If we only could sustain these values up in the
> air.....
> A turbo charged or turbo normalized 85 hp engine
> will produce the 85 hp
> also at altitude, but still consume only 5 Gallon
> per hour. With this
> consumption and the lesser engine weight we are in
> the desired ballpark.
> Remember the normal gasoline engines we use for
> flying produce only 60 %
> of their power at altitude. It does not cut much if
> you have 60 % of 85
> horse or 60% of 125 horses when you consider the
> additional weight of
> the 125 hp engine and the extra fuel to carry.
>
> Not bigger engines are the answer - the Coupe of
> the future will have a
> more sophisticated one.
> Engine that is.
> I know that, because one day I will be building that
> ( not as a kit ,
> but as a ready to assemble plane)You will be able to
> buy it for around
> 50'000 Dollar, engine included and you will fly Jet
> fuel.
>
> Hartmut, San Francisco
>
> Flying is an art of living - The New Ercoupe
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry Wilkins <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 8:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] A new Coupe
>
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> If a "new" Coupe were to be introduced, wouldn't it
> be wise to bring it
> into the realm of the Modern world? I fly out of a
> 5000 msl field, and
> most of our flying is above 7500 ft. An 85 hp Coupe
> just doesn't cut it
> when I have to cross over a pass that's 8000 ft
> high. I always wanted
> to Fly my wife and myself down to Lake Powell, but
> just couldn't make it
> with the two of us and any food and gear. On top of
> that, it was 250
> miles one way, which means I couldn't make it round
> trip. With no fuel
> at the airport there, I would have to have made a
> detour for fuel. More
> fuel? Wider Cockpit? More Power? All of the
> above!!! Many things made
> the Coupe a wonderfully fun little plane. A few
> more things would have
> made it a wonderfully fun, useful plane. 125 hp.
> That would have made
> my Coupe great.
>
> Larry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Percy Wood <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] A new Coupe
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> At 07:09 PM 3/22/02 -0500, Keith Courson wrote:
>
>
>
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> I have recieved alot of intrest in a new Coupe being
> offered as a kit
> andpossibly a certified plane.
>
> Yo, Keith.
> Some of us on the `coupers list have been noodling
> a 'new coupe' for
> some
> time. We have come to the conclusion that it can be
> done, but one
> should
> try to keep the charm. Examples:
> * Flaps. They indeed enhance lift at slow speeds.
> But complicate the
> structure. Without flaps, the wing maintains a
> sufficiently small chord
> so as to be stable. Flaps are one more thing to
> compensate for. Along
> with engine thrust.
> * Wider. Could be nice.
> * Engine. Consensis tends towards 75 - 100 horse
> range. Remember,
> more horses = more fuel. Where you gonna put it and
> how we gonna pay
> for it?
> * Canopy. Part of the charm is flying with the
> 'top down.' Will that
> still
> be available?
> Now, dispite all the questions, we do wish your
> initive well. I
> remain at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> should you wish to get in on a good 'new coupe'
> discussion.
> Percy G. Wood
>
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